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Urgent Choice - 32 GB of DDR3 1600 or 32 GB of DDR3 2133

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Hey all,

Building a new PC as both a professional workstation (for rendering, converting, image manipulation, and building websites - and maybe EOL server) and a gaming/casual rig.

I have most of the components picked out:

CPU=Core i7 3930K (Six Core)
Mobo=ASUS Rampage (X79 Chipset) most likely
Case=SilverStone Temjin TJ07 or something similar
Graphics Card=nVidia GeForce GTX 580 chipset
+Assorted Components

But for memory I'm in a bit of a quandary. I definitely wanted at least 24 GB for the rendering work I do, but given the quad core architecture and RAM packages and pricing, 32 GB is perfect.

Now the inevitable question as to what speed/timing to get. This is where I defer to the experts here.

My dilemma is do I go with (both are 8x4 GB = 32 GB):
- G.SKILL Ripjaws Z Series DDR3 1600 w/ timings of 9-9-9-24 ($184.99)
- G.SKILL Ripjaws Z Series DDR3 1866 w/ timings of 9-10-9-28 ($249.99)
- G.SKILL Ripjaws Z Series DDR3 2133 w/ timings of 9-11-10-28 ($359.99)
- G.SKILL Ripjaws Z Series DDR3 2133 w/ timings of 11-11-11-30 ($329.99)

Newegg page is HERE.


Now I am not interested in synthetic benchmarks, but real-world performance with rendering and the like, but keep in mind this is also a gaming/fun machine. This isn't ECC RAM built for render farms.

I have very little knowledge on the timing vs. memory speed comparison and the different price points further complicates that for me.

Which RAM would be best assuming my mobo takes advantage of the increased speeds?

Is 2133 with higher timings better than 1600 with lower timings in real-world performance? Does the difference matter much (1-3%)? If I go with the 2133 that is slightly more expensive (tighter timings), is that really worth it over the higher timings one?

Boils down to: Is higher memory speed better than worse timings? Real-world implications of such a difference? Would multi-cored, rendering tasks likely be slower with increased timings or with a slower memory speed? Would that boil down to worse everyday, common use performance?

A small, of only a couple percentage points, improvement might not be worth it in which case the DDR3 1600 might be best. I have been told it's a solid choice since the others offer incremental gains. But everyone here is probably more knowledgeable on that.

$150 more for the DDR3 2133 with tighter timings really worth it?

Not planning on upgrading either likely after this machine is built.

Please advise oh wise ones, I apologize in advance if anything is wrong in this question or forum. I'm a n00b here and decided to defer to the experts. Spare me!
Edited by II Xion II - 11/26/11 at 12:51am
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I'm not gonna answer, but i'm sure the word "Overkill" is going to be used excessively in this thread
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Capacity-wise I hope not. I know of people who have issues rendering certain high poly scenes with 24 GB, so going up to 32 GB, especially when it's so cheap, is a logical step forward.

Needless the capacity is set. It's 32 GB unless 16 GB is exponentially faster and better-suited for all sorts of applications. That'd be the only way I'd probably down the capacity.
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Not exactly overkill... but I would get the middle-ground; the DDR3-1866 has good timings, and you won't notice very much difference between it and 2133Mhz. Use that extra $100 and grab an SSD.

Of course, if it was me, I would just get the 1600Mhz. Use the money you saved and get something that will make a bigger difference, like an array of SSD's or something tongue.gif

In the real world, the performance difference won't warrant an extra ~$200.
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Not exactly overkill... but I would get the middle-ground; the DDR3-1866 has good timings, and you won't notice very much difference between it and 2133Mhz. Use that extra $100 and grab an SSD.
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I vote for the 1866MHz as well. Long time ago some render guru said: "Get the RAM with the highest bandwidth."
But this 1866MHz have plenty bandwidth and shouldn`t slow down ANY program!
Esp. with quad channel!
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I vote for the cheapest one.

Not going to be able to tell the difference between any of the kits outside of benchmarks, or maybe seriously heavy duty archiving.
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- G.SKILL Ripjaws Z Series DDR3 1600 w/ timings of 9-9-9-24 ($184.99)

that is an extremely good deal, its not to long ago that 32GB would have cost $800+ Tech is becoming so affordable.
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I vote for the cheapest one.
Not going to be able to tell the difference between any of the kits outside of benchmarks, or maybe seriously heavy duty archiving.

Agreed. I can't tell the difference between 1066 9-9-9-24 and 1600 7-8-7-20. Not even in benchmarks - unless they're memory specific.
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unless you benchmark, just get the cheapest one. timings and speed dont really affect gaming and programs.
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