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i know the old saying, only to use distilled water with ptnuke. This is what i have use on all my build but now with my new build i have 2x koolance nickle block for my gtx 580. It seems that the cause of corrosion is distilled water + ptnuke or kill coil. I only have a few weeks now with my rig and would hate for this to happened since koolance is also denying warranty for anyone using water+ptnuke and not coolant. Now i'm looking at primochill pc ice clear. Would using CLEAR coolant cause any kind of stain and build up? i rather play it safe for now until we find out the real reason of corrosion but fingers are pointing to water+ptnuke.
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I've been using PC ICE for over a year now and everything is A'OK. There is absolutely no build up whatsoever (Use the clear one as per your question). It's a bit expensive but I like the all in one aspect. It's also non conductive at the beginning which makes it great for leak testing. Once that's over though, it doesn't matter if it becomes conductive in the future. Also, it has biocide in it so I don't have to worry about it and a single bottle can almost get me 2 full fills on my loop which isn't too bad. The price of one bottle a year or so isn't bad for all those who say water + nuke/coil is the cheapest. Yes, it is, but I don't really care about a few bucks in a year's time and I like the peace of mind knowing that it's great if you worry about leaks in the beginning as I do.
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I've been using PC ICE for over a year now and everything is A'OK. There is absolutely no build up whatsoever (Use the clear one as per your question). It's a bit expensive but I like the all in one aspect. It's also non conductive at the beginning which makes it great for leak testing. Once that's over though, it doesn't matter if it becomes conductive in the future. Also, it has biocide in it so I don't have to worry about it and a single bottle can almost get me 2 full fills on my loop which isn't too bad. The price of one bottle a year or so isn't bad for all those who say water + nuke/coil is the cheapest. Yes, it is, but I don't really care about a few bucks in a year's time and I like the peace of mind knowing that it's great if you worry about leaks in the beginning as I do.

thanx you but you DO know that distilled water is also non conductives, you can drop an entire cup of distilled water in your mobo without worries. i have drop so much distilled water in my new build (in mobo, videocards and soundcard) that i could have fill half a gallon. Yes i got scare cause is water but no worries. If you are only using pc ice because is non conductive you are wasting your money cause distilled water is just as non conductive has pc ice.
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Just because the nickel is flaking off doesn't automatically mean corrosion is to blame, I don't think distilled water and silver coils causes corrosion. Buying poor quality nickel tabs is the reason nickel would flake off, I never heard of one case where a Danger Den's nickel block having plating issues. It's companies trying save a few bucks, if it were corrosion why did EK change the way their blocks are plated? The answer is to have a more durable surface than before when they were being CHEAP!
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Adding anything to distilled water will make it conductive. Be it nuke or kill coil. It's also exponential. The more impurities there are in the water, the faster it'll become conductive. I'd prefer to keep to something that I know works and minimizes the amount of steps that could cause problems. And I mentioned the money issue as a non issue. I'm pretty sure I'm not going to miss the $10 or $15 per year. If you wanted to save money, go with air cooling. It's the price of a single high quality compression fitting anyway. It's you who asked about PC ICE, and I as someone who uses it, gave you some info on my experiences pertaining to your question. You've used distilled water and assume there's a problem with it then you go off glorifying it. If that's what you were going to do no matter the help given pertaining to the product then just go with what you like best.
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Well it seems you've got it all figured out and seem to know what you are talking about so good luck to you.
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Adding anything to distilled water will make it conductive. … It's also exponential. The more impurities there are in the water, the faster it'll become conductive.

That is simply not true.

An example, fresh from another post: Pure water (though self-ionized at equilibrium) is far more conductive than the same water with dissolved neutral mono-atomic gasses in it, by several orders of magnitude.

Dissolved ions make water conductive. Dissolved neutral molecules do not. Dissolved stuff interacts with other dissolved stuff in very complex ways, so for example dissolving substance A may change the pH and affect how it dissolves material B, causing it to hold less of it. As is shown by the example of gasses, some things will make the water less conductive. You can have non-linear effects in materials prepared for the purpose: an electric field causes a countering effect, so charge does not move through the water. Suspended particles can cause local polarization around them, blocking the effects of ions. And so on.

It is generally assumed by posters that commercial "non conductive" coolant is no less conductive than grocery-store distilled water. That has not been shown to be true with any cited reference as long as I've been following these threads. If you have such fluids, test them, or see if the bottle makes more specific claims. Or, send me a small sample and I'll do some experiments. It would be a good excuse to finally get my Tectronix meter serviced smile.gif .
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To the OP...

I have the SAME EXACT setup as you. Two EVGA GTX 580s with the Koolance VID-NX580 water blocks on both of them. Currently running PC Ice clear and over the past 6 (going on 7 months) absolutely no corrosion, biotic buildup, or flaking.

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i would go with the koil > pt nuke, it's reusable and holds value. also doesn't maker your water taste all bitter.
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i would go with the koil > pt nuke, it's reusable and holds value. also doesn't maker your water taste all bitter.

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