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I think you can do the "passive" idea, because of the small size of the case. After everything is installed, there's less than 7 litres of space. The fan can easily replenish this volume, several times a second. But if you try any overclock, you need to watch temps carefully.

About the "In the normal configuration, the cpu blower blow directly down at the cpu heatsink and incidentally cools the motherboard, but in the opposite configuration, it's more difficult for the blower to have access to fresh air" is not logically correct. The fresh air is coming from the side, while the fan blows perpendicular. It doesn't matter for cooling the motherboard if the air is being pulled away from it, or being pushed onto it.

Although I have tried various configurations myself, no need to trust my experience - best thing is to try all configurations yourself. That way you can be sure. For measuring the PSU exhaust I recommend one of those laser infrared temp probes.
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I think you can do the "passive" idea, because of the small size of the case. After everything is installed, there's less than 7 litres of space. The fan can easily replenish this volume, several times a second. But if you try any overclock, you need to watch temps carefully.

About the "In the normal configuration, the cpu blower blow directly down at the cpu heatsink and incidentally cools the motherboard, but in the opposite configuration, it's more difficult for the blower to have access to fresh air" is not logically correct. The fresh air is coming from the side, while the fan blows perpendicular. It doesn't matter for cooling the motherboard if the air is being pulled away from it, or being pushed onto it.

Although I have tried various configurations myself, no need to trust my experience - best thing is to try all configurations yourself. That way you can be sure. For measuring the PSU exhaust I recommend one of those laser infrared temp probes.

I just realized the NT06-Pro blows away from the mobo by default so it's a moot point tongue.gif.
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Looks like disk density for 2.5" are a lot lower (750GB range)... Would there be an airflow difference between a single 3.5" vs 2x 2.5"? Doesn't quite make sense to get 2.5" drives if it means that I just put two exactly where the 3.5" would have gone lol. Are the 2.5" drives hidden away for the most part? 2TB is a minimum requirement for local storage for me frown.gif.
There is one 2.5 tray right next to the motherboard (I posted this just last week), and another 2.5 bracket that attach to the back of the ODD bracket, that is also used as a mounting point for the 3.5hdd bracket

so it's like:

[Motherboard]............ [empty Space]............[PSU] [Side pannel]
[Motherboard].....[empty Space] .....[3.5HDD][2.5HDD][ODD][Side pannel]
[2.5HDD]
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Someone mentioned that the 3.5" drive will limit my cooling options / make cable management a PIA. Can someone tell exactly what components may be blocked? I don't plan on having a radiator-- is that the only compatibility concern? Also, is it not possible to run the cables along the frame, away from the central air channel?
I preferred using a simple AIO instead of a aircooler because they have more flexibility. As long as they have a slim radiator, they will fit nicely in the case wherever you use a 3.5 Drive or not.
the brackets will make the cable management a pain as they'll be too close to the back of the psu, forcing the cables to make a uncomfortable 90° bend. SFX PSU have short cables, they will not get in the way of the airflow that much, as long as you do not just throw the cables in there you'll be fine
post #2014 of 2749
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There is one 2.5 tray right next to the motherboard (I posted this just last week), and another 2.5 bracket that attach to the back of the ODD bracket, that is also used as a mounting point for the 3.5hdd bracket

so it's like:

[Motherboard]............ [empty Space]............[PSU] [Side pannel]
[Motherboard].....[empty Space] .....[3.5HDD][2.5HDD][ODD][Side pannel]
[2.5HDD]
I preferred using a simple AIO instead of a aircooler because they have more flexibility. As long as they have a slim radiator, they will fit nicely in the case wherever you use a 3.5 Drive or not.
the brackets will make the cable management a pain as they'll be too close to the back of the psu, forcing the cables to make a uncomfortable 90° bend. SFX PSU have short cables, they will not get in the way of the airflow that much, as long as you do not just throw the cables in there you'll be fine

Thanks for the suggestion! At this point, I don't see a way to not get a 3.5" HDD, due to disk densities in 2.5" being so much lower.

I'll be using the new SST SFX 600W watt gold PSU, so I'm hoping it'll be easier on cable management and give me some needed headroom. I took a serious look at AiO (H60) and really wanted to use one, but I keep seeing horror stories about how the unit exploded water all over components, or how there was a leak, or even in one case found algae growing o_O. Air cooling seems safer to me as long as I can keep temperatures reasonably low. Some might be wondering I'm investing in a 4790K when I won't be able to do much over-clocking, but the new K series TIM is apparently much better than its previous brethren. Also, I'll be getting a good deal on the cpu so there won't be a significant price difference regardless of which CPU I buy (so I might as well get the 4790k).

Out of curiosity are you using an H55?


edit: BTW, anyone use a NH-L12 in any configuration? It's shorter than the NT06-PRO and supposed to be quieter as well. I'm unsure whether it'll fit with my memory / motherboard with the 120mm fan on the bottom, but Noctua says it should still function within spec even just using the 92mm fan: http://www.noctua.at/main.php?show=nh_l12_tdp_guidelines
Edited by PurpleBlurpL - 11/18/14 at 2:16pm
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post #2015 of 2749
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Thanks for the suggestion! At this point, I don't see a way to not get a 3.5" HDD, due to disk densities in 2.5" being so much lower.

I'll be using the new SST SFX 600W watt gold PSU, so I'm hoping it'll be easier on cable management and give me some needed headroom. I took a serious look at AiO (H60) and really wanted to use one, but I keep seeing horror stories about how the unit exploded water all over components, or how there was a leak, or even in one case found algae growing o_O. Air cooling seems safer to me as long as I can keep temperatures reasonably low. Some might be wondering I'm investing in a 4790K when I won't be able to do much over-clocking, but the new K series TIM is apparently much better than its previous brethren. Also, I'll be getting a good deal on the cpu so there won't be a significant price difference regardless of which CPU I buy (so I might as well get the 4790k).

Out of curiosity are you using an H55?
Just don't go nuts overclocking that i7. Some light~medium OC so that the temperatures don't skyrocket inside the case while editing videos, otherwise go for a custom WC or for another case. biggrin.gif

Yes I use a H55 as they are the cheapest AIO available where I live and I'm somewhat a asetek fanboy because their units always work flawlessly for me and everybody I know. My friend is using a Antec 620 that I bought when they just released, and is still running rock solid even while suffering heavy abuse (like submerging the radiator on Iced water for long OCing and benchmarking). Cannot say the same for the CoolIT ones as they always have some type of terminal illness mad.gif
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Hey guys I'm looking to buy the FT03 Mini for a secondary build , and was curious , Can you use silverstones new 600SFX-L PSU with the slot loading disc/ HDD Tray or will the PSU hit it ?
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Hey guys I'm looking to buy the FT03 Mini for a secondary build , and was curious , Can you use silverstones new 600SFX-L PSU with the slot loading disc/ HDD Tray or will the PSU hit it ?

If you mean the new SX600-G? Then yes, it's the same size as all the other SFX units from Silverstone.

If you mean the yet-to-be-released SX500-GL? Then no. It's 130mm deep, 30mm more than a regular SFX unit. As you can see, the space between the PSU and optical tray was already minimal.

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If you mean the new SX600-G? Then yes, it's the same size as all the other SFX units from Silverstone.

If you mean the yet-to-be-released SX500-GL? Then no. It's 130mm deep, 30mm more than a regular SFX unit. As you can see, the space between the PSU and optical tray was already minimal.
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I was talking the SX600-G , why would the 500watt be longer then the 600?
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It uses a larger fan to allow for quieter operation. It even runs fanless upto about 40 degrees thanks to the extra space as well..
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Are there any chances that the SX500-GL is just a rebranded Chieftech SFX-500GD-C?
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