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Good point. I'll manage my expectations accordingly smile.gif
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Originally Posted by psyclum View Post

with the split chamber idea, your intake for the HSF is the exhaust of your PSU... not saying it wont work, just saying you should be aware.

It's gonna get very hot on the GPU. With the bottom intake fan air blocked from getting into the right chamber & some amount of warm air from the PSU going up as the small metal piece covering the space in between the CPU & side panel on the top of the PSU is removed it's gonna get hot on the CPU too. The fan on top of the optical drive bay is taking the hot air from the PSU.
Edited by Cheaptrick - 10/22/15 at 6:19pm
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Power supplies are so efficient now that they do not push lots of heat unless very loaded(so dual video card users may have more heat to deal with).

I do not think it should hurt performance.

You should still have a combination of ambient and psu heated air(not too heated since it has cool air from under the case) pulled in.
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post #2444 of 2743
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Originally Posted by MiniCactuar View Post

Good suggestion, but according to this thread the cables are hard to find, even though Silverstone says some are available. I think it will be much simpler to make a small cut in the case and be done with it.

Oh yeah, I forgot the plug has to be slim, which wasn't a problem when I got annoyed with the cable on my brother's Raven and I easily picked up a cable with a right angle plug (and they had three versions that go in different directions) redface.gif
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Originally Posted by MiniCactuar View Post

Has anyone considered adding a large panel to split the interior of the FT03 into two chambers? I'm thinking of adding a plate behind the video card that runs all the way down to the top of the PSU "cage", basically sealing the video card area where my 80mm fans can help cool the 970. And in case the 970 Strix open cooler fans spin, the warm air wouldn't affect the CPU, making a blower-style graphics card unnecessary. Is this crazy talk? Here's a doodle.


I wouldn't really worry about the hot air from the GPU going into the CPU cooler. First off, if you're using a Strix or any non-blower style cooler, then where will the warm air coming off the GPU cooler go? They'll bounce off the chamber splitter before convection lets them bleed out of the case. Second, the CPU cooler will rely on what air is coming off the PSU more, which won't be as hot, but there might not be a lot of air there. The fan over the PSU will end up pulling more air from the PSU and from outside off the parts of the grill past the top of the PSU exhaust since it's not redirecting air coming off the main intake at the bottom yu might just end up getting more dust inside the case.

With the relatively low TDP of the GTX 970 to the point that the Strix has fanless operation, I wouldn't really worry about how hot the air coming off it is in terms of it ending up on the CPU cooler. Also, there's an exhaust fan, and as long as that has good flow, the warm air coming off one of the GPU fans will get sucked out.
Edited by PM323 - 10/22/15 at 9:02pm
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So let's say I ignore the chamber idea. Which cooling solution would be best? Two 80mm fans or a single 120 using the angled bracket under the GPU? Also I cannot use the 120 case fan under the CPU heatsink as the Dark Rock 3 is too big.
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So let's say I ignore the chamber idea. Which cooling solution would be best? Two 80mm fans or a single 120 using the angled bracket under the GPU? Also I cannot use the 120 case fan under the CPU heatsink as the Dark Rock 3 is too big.

First thing to consider is that this wouldn't be an apples to apples comparison since the 80mm and 120mm fans can be very different. That considered, despite how the 2x80mm can blow air through to the path where the GPU fans can suck them in better (given two fans on the Strix, vs a blower at the bottom) and then one of them at least will toss the air towards the general area in front of the Dark Rock 3 fan, I'm partial to the 120mm.

This is primarily due to the airflow-noise ratio, and with the greater availability of 120mm fans out there, it won't be as hard finding a high CFM fan with enough static pressure to pull in air from the relatively smaller intake area that will be quieter than most 2x80mm fan combos.
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Thanks for the insight PM323 (Mazda 323 fan!?)

The two 80mm fans I got are Noctua NF-R8's, from my research they had a decent CFM/noise ratio. I'll need to research 120's to see if I can get something better.
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Have anyone found a GeForce 970 or 980Ti blower-style that fits the FT03-Mini with no modification?

Which ones will fit with modification, and what kind of modification is needed then? (I haven't bought my case yet)
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Hello together!

I just registered here to ask some questions for my completely new PC I'm building inside the FT03-mini. Some things are already ordered, others I'll be using from my old one, but the following ones I'm still not really clear how I should deal with it.

Case is already ordered (black one), as is the MSI H97i AC and ASAP 16 GB DDR3 RAM. I already have the Core i7 4790, which I got quite cheap.
I'll continue to use my Samsung SSD 830. As I will try with my be quiet Straight Power E9 450W.

This the first problem. Of course the case isn't intended to use ATX PSUs. It can be possible though, but even then I've got no CableManagement on it.

So I think about the following possibilities: be quiet PSU with CM Seidon 120V or Enermax Liqmax II 120S.

The other one: I buy a SFX/SFX-L PSU with Raijintek Pallas.

Two questions. Which of these options should I prefer, either if ATX/SFX PSU or Watercooling VS Aircooling. I might even prefer the SFX/Air option. I get more room and by reading quite a lot reviews of 120mm Watercooler against Aircooler I don't really see a big advantage pro Watercooling except if there's no room like in this case.
But then there's the thing with those SFX PSUs. I'm not really satisfied with the options I have. Either expensive like the Silverstone SFX 450W or technically in need of improvement with the SFX-L PSUs which use the same technique by the same manufacturer. Then there's the noise. I don't know how noisy they may get for my ears but the pump of the Watercooler might even be worse.

Any suggestions? I hope my text can be understood. biggrin.gif

@henrikwils

Well, these here should fit into the case without modifications. It's german, but you'll recognize the cards.
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Originally Posted by MiniCactuar View Post

Thanks for the insight PM323 (Mazda 323 fan!?)

Yep, inherited my Dad's alternate car when I was a senior in high school. Still driving it today as I might leave for PhD, and I don't want to get stuck with payments on any car that I can't use. biggrin.gif

Check out the Vifa tweeter I installed in that car a few years ago: http://cdn.head-fi.org/5/5e/5e39c33d_16855_1356705156202_7484440_n.jpeg

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Originally Posted by MiniCactuar View Post

The two 80mm fans I got are Noctua NF-R8's, from my research they had a decent CFM/noise ratio. I'll need to research 120's to see if I can get something better.

I'm planning on using an FT03 for my next build, with the cooling system comprised of a Noctua NF-F12 Industrial PPC to pull in at least 70cfm, then a blower card and a Dark Rock Pro 3 on the CPU, but no exhaust fan and just rely on the cooler's middle fan to push air out fast enough to be aided by convection. Get the PWM model so you can lower the RPM if it's too noisy, but one advantage of the FT03 is that the thicker aluminum can keep a lot of the noise inside the case from leaking out. That means a 120mm can potentially be more silent than 2x80mm fans since it'll be partially inside the case, plus I can keep the CPU cooler fan running faster.

I might block off the PSU exhaust on the side actually, but will use a spare side panel designed for the other side (there's a similar mod a few pages back) instead of modding what it comes with. PSU won't add much heat and the CPU cooler can suck it upward anyway, and the sealed panel will mean the noise from the 120mm fan, blower, and CPU cooler fans will not escape through vents, but I'd have to have a back up panel in case the dry season heat here makes that set-up problematic.
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