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I am extremely pleased with the Silent Wings 2 fan on my Dark Rock 3 cooler, so I will order two more to replace the stock Silverstone 120mm fans. I like how the angled bracket below the GPU manages to send some (not a ton) airflow towards the GPU, and it will be quieter than 2x80mm fans. The Silent Wings 3 aren't coming out until 2016, that's too long to wait (stock fans are too noisy) so I'll go with v2.

By the way I'm not sure you need the Dark Rock Pro 3. When I researched the differences between the regular Dark Rock 3 vs. Pro 3 I noticed only marginal gains by the Pro. The cost to performance ratio of the regular version was right in the sweet spot, at least for me (and my budget!). Something worth considering perhaps...
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Originally Posted by MiniCactuar View Post

I am extremely pleased with the Silent Wings 2 fan on my Dark Rock 3 cooler, so I will order two more to replace the stock Silverstone 120mm fans. I like how the angled bracket below the GPU manages to send some (not a ton) airflow towards the GPU, and it will be quieter than 2x80mm fans. The Silent Wings 3 aren't coming out until 2016, that's too long to wait (stock fans are too noisy) so I'll go with v2.

By the way I'm not sure you need the Dark Rock Pro 3. When I researched the differences between the regular Dark Rock 3 vs. Pro 3 I noticed only marginal gains by the Pro. The cost to performance ratio of the regular version was right in the sweet spot, at least for me (and my budget!). Something worth considering perhaps...

I'm going for the largest I can get since ambient temps here can hit 41degC in the dry season, and the A/C in such situations will only be able to get that down to around 34degC. I'm going for the largest surface area I can get.

The other cooler I'm considering actually is the HR-22, but I haven't seen it in an FT03. By my estimates I should be able to fit a 120mm exhaust fan behind it, and any gap I can do some neat but otherwise ghetto-rigging some kind of shroud. I'm kind of sure the Thermalright tube won't fit unless it's an HR-02. In any case I'm counting on semi-passive cooling because the FT03 doesn't have a grill over the exhaust fan mount, so there's a few hundred RPM of wiggle room.

What really put the DRP3 ahead in my list is acquisition - I'm gonna have to order either of these from overseas, and since the fit isn't guaranteed on the HR-22, I thought I might as well at least for now put another large cooler with the nice black cover ahead of it since it'll be a dark-theme (black, grey, midnight blue) interior anyway. Of course, when I do start buying, I'm gonna check if somebody was able to fit the HR-22.
post #2453 of 2749
Hey guys

Just wanted to know if my setup is possible, before I order all components for my FT03 Mini:

EVGA GeForce GTX 970 SC GAMING, blower style is 241.3mm long
Corsair H90 water cooling (will this conflict with my graphics card?)


Edit: Nevermind, this video pretty much shows everything smile.gif Seems like the radiator is completely out of the way from the graphics card:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWAeZYB9DGg
Edited by henrikwils - 10/30/15 at 7:53pm
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Soaked the modder's mesh with lacquer tinner, put some primer, sprayed it with paint & glued it. Finally almost done with my side panel mod. Still needs to add a dust filter. Looking good so far but my LG G3 phone camera sucks in taking pics at night. sadsmiley.gif




Edited by Cheaptrick - 10/30/15 at 8:34pm
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post #2455 of 2749
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Originally Posted by henrikwils View Post

Hey guys

Just wanted to know if my setup is possible, before I order all components for my FT03 Mini:

EVGA GeForce GTX 970 SC GAMING, blower style is 241.3mm long
Corsair H90 water cooling (will this conflict with my graphics card?)


Edit: Nevermind, this video pretty much shows everything smile.gif Seems like the radiator is completely out of the way from the graphics card:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWAeZYB9DGg

That video, and pretty much every build in the Mini, used a 120mm radiator. The H90 is 140mm.

Here's what it looks like with the 140mm intake fan and a 120mm above it. I can't find any pics of it but it's in that video, look closely and you'll see the 120mm mount.


Edited by PM323 - 10/30/15 at 9:23pm
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Apologize in advance for the poor resolution (camphone) and my not so world class cable management.

Just received this case (FT03T) through the mail and moved my parts from an older case (QBX).

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Apologize in advance for the poor resolution (camphone) and my not so world class cable management.

Just received this case (FT03T) through the mail and moved my parts from an older case (QBX).

Named it Sahelentropus (MGS V) since this case is biggest computer case I have owned.





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post #2458 of 2749
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That video, and pretty much every build in the Mini, used a 120mm radiator. The H90 is 140mm.

Here's what it looks like with the 140mm intake fan and a 120mm above it. I can't find any pics of it but it's in that video, look closely and you'll see the 120mm mount.


I just thought I saw someone mention using H90 in the Mini. I guess that's not gonna work without modifications.

That just raises more questions:

Which Corsair water cooling options will fit the FT03 Mini?

Hydro Series H75 (25mm rad, dual-fan push/pull)
Hydro Series H50 (27mm rad, single fan)
Hydro Series H55 (27mm rad, single fan)
Hydro Series H60 (27mm rad, single fan)
Hydro Series H80i GT (49mm rad, dual-fan push/pull)
Hydro Series H80i (38mm rad, dual-fan push/pull)

From the video, it looks like there is plenty of room, perhaps even for the H80i GT? I would to try overclocking the 6700K CPU I'm going to buy as much as possible.

In any case (single fan or push/pull), should you just omit the bottom fan and use the air penetrator that comes with the case?

Has anyone successfully installed the Corsair GPU bracket for GPU cooling? I'll assume that there won't be enough room for the tubes, since they need to go straight "up" into the side panel. Maybe there's an alternative?
post #2459 of 2749
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I just thought I saw someone mention using H90 in the Mini. I guess that's not gonna work without modifications.

At minimum it will impact how long the graphics card can be. You can screw in the 140mm rad on the other side of the metal plate, but I'm not sure if the reservoir extensions will fit. Best go with a 120mm.


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That just raises more questions:

Which Corsair water cooling options will fit the FT03 Mini?

Hydro Series H75 (25mm rad, dual-fan push/pull)
Hydro Series H50 (27mm rad, single fan)
Hydro Series H55 (27mm rad, single fan)
Hydro Series H60 (27mm rad, single fan)
Hydro Series H80i GT (49mm rad, dual-fan push/pull)
Hydro Series H80i (38mm rad, dual-fan push/pull)

From the video, it looks like there is plenty of room, perhaps even for the H80i GT? I would to try overclocking the 6700K CPU I'm going to buy as much as possible.

In terms of depth the question is what other components you want to fit in there. At minimum you might have to give up the 3.5mm and optical drives if you want a thick drive. You could try to see if the WDBlack Hybrid can fit, but note that it's a thicker unit as it's actually two drives in one 2.5in unit, unlike the Momentus that basically just uses the SSD section like a predictive cache.

Here's one with an H80i: http://s7.postimg.org/prdnok57v/CIMG053501.jpg

With the H80i GT specifically though it wouldn't be the rad thickness I'd worry about first, but the tubes coming out of the water block/pump unit. They're sticking straight out of the top, which normally means that it would be more secure against leaks as it doesn't use the moving barbs (not sure if that's the correct term for an AIO), but the trade off is whether it will fit without bending the wrong way since the PSU is smack over where the CPU is.


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Originally Posted by henrikwils View Post

In any case (single fan or push/pull), should you just omit the bottom fan and use the air penetrator that comes with the case?

I wouldn't really use the bottom fan if you plan on overclocking - static pressure and CFM is a bit low at that RPM. I wouldn't put too much stock on the Air Penetrator design - whether the concept works or not the reality is that in a case like the Mini you wouldn't really need it considering how small the chassis is, and at the same time, you actually would want some of that air to bounce off the side panel over the graphics card to feed the blower. I'll just use a pull fan on the rad to draw air through it as well as keep the air it pulls going up fast enough. I'd check out the Noctua Industrial PPC NF-A14 and NF-F12. Get the PWM versions so you can set the fan speed to acceptable noise levels and then just ramp them up when needed.

One other thing about fans though - I wouldn't use the Corsair fans especially for pull application. The round frame leaves gaps around it where it can pull air from instead of pulling from the other side of the rad. It's not going to be drastically bad but a 1deg to 3deg C (could be more, but from my own tests it wasn't more than either) difference might matter to you.

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Originally Posted by henrikwils View Post

Has anyone successfully installed the Corsair GPU bracket for GPU cooling? I'll assume that there won't be enough room for the tubes, since they need to go straight "up" into the side panel. Maybe there's an alternative?

Just one problem - what cooler will you use for the CPU? There's only going to be space for the GPU rad since the tubes will get in the way, not to mention the PSU. Alternately, you can use any of the following:

1. Build a custom loop, this way you can keep the tubes neat and there's no pump on the GPU block. Just use an extra thick rad. Given you'll remove the stock cooler you might be able to fit a 140mm rad into it. You can install the reservoir at the top that way you won't need the extra space for that on the rad. I can't find it with Google but I think it was posted on this thread.

2. FT03. You'll have a lot more options on the mATX version - like stacking the rads on the exhaust, build a custom loop with a 2x80mm rad plus a thick 120mm rad, or use a good, slim but high density air cooler on the CPU and then an AIO to cool the GPU. Maybe mount the exhaust fan on the outside of the mount (use rubber fan grommets to help with the seal) so you can use a larger air cooler.
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Originally Posted by PM323 View Post

In terms of depth the question is what other components you want to fit in there. At minimum you might have to give up the 3.5mm and optical drives if you want a thick drive. You could try to see if the WDBlack Hybrid can fit, but note that it's a thicker unit as it's actually two drives in one 2.5in unit, unlike the Momentus that basically just uses the SSD section like a predictive cache.
That's not going to be a huge problem for me. There's always the tray next to the motherboard to fit a drive - However, I REALLY want to keep the optical drive. He does that in the video, so that should be possible at least. I have already ordered the case and the drive, so I will probably be able to estimate myself how much space I can work with, but it's always nice to hear from others experience.
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Originally Posted by PM323 View Post

Here's one with an H80i: http://s7.postimg.org/prdnok57v/CIMG053501.jpg

With the H80i GT specifically though it wouldn't be the rad thickness I'd worry about first, but the tubes coming out of the water block/pump unit. They're sticking straight out of the top, which normally means that it would be more secure against leaks as it doesn't use the moving barbs (not sure if that's the correct term for an AIO), but the trade off is whether it will fit without bending the wrong way since the PSU is smack over where the CPU is.
Good point! Again, I will need to do some measurements when I get it.
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Originally Posted by PM323 View Post

I wouldn't really use the bottom fan if you plan on overclocking - static pressure and CFM is a bit low at that RPM. I wouldn't put too much stock on the Air Penetrator design - whether the concept works or not the reality is that in a case like the Mini you wouldn't really need it considering how small the chassis is, and at the same time, you actually would want some of that air to bounce off the side panel over the graphics card to feed the blower. I'll just use a pull fan on the rad to draw air through it as well as keep the air it pulls going up fast enough. I'd check out the Noctua Industrial PPC NF-A14 and NF-F12. Get the PWM versions so you can set the fan speed to acceptable noise levels and then just ramp them up when needed.

One other thing about fans though - I wouldn't use the Corsair fans especially for pull application. The round frame leaves gaps around it where it can pull air from instead of pulling from the other side of the rad. It's not going to be drastically bad but a 1deg to 3deg C (could be more, but from my own tests it wasn't more than either) difference might matter to you.
I see - That's why people were also recommending gaskets between the fan and rad, right?
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Originally Posted by PM323 View Post

Just one problem - what cooler will you use for the CPU? There's only going to be space for the GPU rad since the tubes will get in the way, not to mention the PSU. Alternately, you can use any of the following:

1. Build a custom loop, this way you can keep the tubes neat and there's no pump on the GPU block. Just use an extra thick rad. Given you'll remove the stock cooler you might be able to fit a 140mm rad into it. You can install the reservoir at the top that way you won't need the extra space for that on the rad. I can't find it with Google but I think it was posted on this thread.

2. FT03. You'll have a lot more options on the mATX version - like stacking the rads on the exhaust, build a custom loop with a 2x80mm rad plus a thick 120mm rad, or use a good, slim but high density air cooler on the CPU and then an AIO to cool the GPU. Maybe mount the exhaust fan on the outside of the mount (use rubber fan grommets to help with the seal) so you can use a larger air cooler.
I thought of it more of a "concept" or "could it be done"? - Perhaps with two slim line radiators on top of another. I'll probably leave that as a possible upgrade in the future, when I know the case and limitations better wink.gif
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