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However, another problem have emerged. The motherboard I will be using (ASUS Maximus VIII Impact) has a U.2 connector for SSD drives. I did consider using the Samsung 950 Pro M.2 drive, because of the improved performance, but how would I install that one, when there is no M.2 connector on the board?

I know that you can get adapter cables, so connectivity is not a problem, just the mounting.
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However, another problem have emerged. The motherboard I will be using (ASUS Maximus VIII Impact) has a U.2 connector for SSD drives. I did consider using the Samsung 950 Pro M.2 drive, because of the improved performance, but how would I install that one, when there is no M.2 connector on the board?

I know that you can get adapter cables, so connectivity is not a problem, just the mounting.

Get rid of the motherboard. I don't think SFF-8639 to m.2 connector even exist. There's an m.2 to mini-SAS/u.2 connector (comes in a kit) - that you can find in newer motherboards but you also need a u.2 SSD drive for it.
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That's not going to be a huge problem for me. There's always the tray next to the motherboard to fit a drive - However, I REALLY want to keep the optical drive. He does that in the video, so that should be possible at least. I have already ordered the case and the drive, so I will probably be able to estimate myself how much space I can work with, but it's always nice to hear from others experience.

Well not so much experience actually building in one, but I've gone to a local store and handled the bare frame with only the mobo tray on it (plus some spare components they had there as mock-ups), as I needed to get a better look at the interior that I can't get otherwise.

As for putting a drive where there isn't an actual mount, if what you plan on doing is a 2.5mm in the usual slot next to the motherboard and then an SSD in the panel that has no mounts, note that it might conflict with the power supply, or at minimum, be a PITA to hook up. If you don't hook it up the other cables will be in the way, if you hook it up before closing the cable will have to be a bit longer. I suggest having a wire grill handy in case it gets in the way of the 120mm pull fan on the rad.

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Good point! Again, I will need to do some measurements when I get it.

I'd assum you're where you can return stuff and just pay a restocking fee, and if so, then go ahead and try it. I'm a lot more cautious because where I am you can't return anything that isn't defective.


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I see - That's why people were also recommending gaskets between the fan and rad, right?

Between the main intake fan and the rad, yes. But in terms of the gaps that can be detrimental when using Corsair fans in pull, well just check this out as the visuals may explain it better:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kk7JMOcypus


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I thought of it more of a "concept" or "could it be done"? - Perhaps with two slim line radiators on top of another. I'll probably leave that as a possible upgrade in the future, when I know the case and limitations better wink.gif

It's been done before, like on the Node304: http://s78.photobucket.com/user/vtecthunder/media/Black%20Mamba/IMG_20140729_004010_zpsfffplf16.jpg.html

My concern with doing the same on the FT03 Mini though would be how much more cramped it is inside considering the lay-out, plus there's the problem of how to fit the reservoir end on one rad. Look at the photo on the Node304 - the opposite end without the tubes can fit but note that on AIOs the end with the tubes is usually slightly thicker, which means one of the rads might get in the way of the side panel.

Past that...does it really, really, really have to be Corsair? Because you'll end up dealing with two problems there - the fan in pull and, bigger problem in this case specifically, the tube mount on the waterblock plus their flexibility. There are AIOs out there that use a more flexible and thinner kind of tube like on the old H80 IIRC, on top of which they have the flexible barbs on the waterblock. Then there's the possibility that the G10 bracket will be longer than the stock blower.

In any case as much as I'd say go ahead and try if you can return them for acceptable fees, I'd still say it would be best if you have some kind of back up plan in case all those won't fit. Like building a custom loop with a top-mount, compact pump-res, and using the thickest 120mm or 140mm rad you can fit in there depending on how long the graphics card is with a full waterblock.
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However, another problem have emerged. The motherboard I will be using (ASUS Maximus VIII Impact) has a U.2 connector for SSD drives. I did consider using the Samsung 950 Pro M.2 drive, because of the improved performance, but how would I install that one, when there is no M.2 connector on the board?

I know that you can get adapter cables, so connectivity is not a problem, just the mounting.

I'm not even sure if an M2 to SATA adapter cable exists - the only ones I've seen have a circuit board as those are very different connections. I mean in audio terms it would be like converting USB to SPDIF, and you can't just solder on a USB connector on one end and an RCA on the other to achieve that conversion.

At best you're going to have to use a different board, one with an M2 slot. If you do go that route, find one with the M2 slot on the top instead of behind the board - M2 SSDs tend to get hot in many other cases and it'll be worse on this one when the mobo goes directly onto that one panel (as opposed to a mobo tray with some space for cable management and some airflow behind it).
Edited by PM323 - 11/1/15 at 6:57am
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Past that...does it really, really, really have to be Corsair?
Not at all! It's just what I've seen most recommend, so that's what I've been looking at. What would you recommend?
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At best you're going to have to use a different board, one with an M2 slot. If you do go that route, find one with the M2 slot on the top instead of behind the board - M2 SSDs tend to get hot in many other cases and it'll be worse on this one when the mobo goes directly onto that one panel (as opposed to a mobo tray with some space for cable management and some airflow behind it).

Sounds like I should just wait until U.2 drives becomes available. I wonder how they are gonna look...
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Not at all! It's just what I've seen most recommend, so that's what I've been looking at. What would you recommend?
Sounds like I should just wait until U.2 drives becomes available. I wonder how they are gonna look...

You need to wait longer for your build to be fully operational. I don't even think this renamed U.2 format is gonna fly in the long run. M.2 or the standard SSD seem to be the logical choice here.



Not to discourage you but your intended build is handicapped by your motherboard & case of choice. Think it hard before you start putting the pieces & while there's still time to return this items. You might end up doing a ghetto mod if you're not careful.
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Not at all! It's just what I've seen most recommend, so that's what I've been looking at. What would you recommend?

Staying within Corsair first, and using an AIO on both the GPU and CPU, I'd try two H60s (check if it works with the G10 though).

However given there's the likelihood of the reservoir side on one of them geting in the way of the side panel, and in case it actually does and you use just one for the CPU, I'm inclined to go with the Nepton 120XL - it won't have the tube issues as with the H80i GT plus the fan is a regular rectangular frame so use one of them as a pull fan (if anything, just replace the main intake fan with an NF-A14 PPC PWM).


There's a gif in this page that shows the potential problem with the tubing in the FT03 Mini
http://www.coolermaster.com/cooling/cpu-liquid-cooler/nepton-120xl/
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You need to wait longer for your build to be fully operational. I don't even think this renamed U.2 format is gonna fly in the long run. M.2 or the standard SSD seem to be the logical choice.



Not to discourage you but your intended build is handicapped by your case of choice. Think is hard before you start putting the pieces & there's still time to return the case. You might end up doing a ghetto mod if you're not careful.
I'm sticking with the case - That's the reason I would even build one in the first place. I know there are serious limitations. U.2 or M.2 is on my "nice to have"-list, and it might just be a future upgrade. Z170I PRO GAMING and MSI Z170I GAMING PRO AC has M.2, but on the back, so that would not be ideal either.
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Just stick with a thicker 120 mm radiator hybrid cooler (you gonna remove the HDD bay anyway). A 140 mm radiator run the risk of hitting the video card & it will also prevent you from cutting a hole at the bottom if you decide to mod it to fit a much longer video card.
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Staying within Corsair first, and using an AIO on both the GPU and CPU, I'd try two H60s (check if it works with the G10 though).

However given there's the likelihood of the reservoir side on one of them geting in the way of the side panel, and in case it actually does and you use just one for the CPU, I'm inclined to go with the Nepton 120XL - it won't have the tube issues as with the H80i GT plus the fan is a regular rectangular frame so use one of them as a pull fan (if anything, just replace the main intake fan with an NF-A14 PPC PWM).


There's a gif in this page that shows the potential problem with the tubing in the FT03 Mini
http://www.coolermaster.com/cooling/cpu-liquid-cooler/nepton-120xl/
I haven't bought any AIO's yet, so if you recommend anything else, I'd certainly look into it!
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Hey guys, I currently have a XSPC EX120 rad up top in my FT03. I would like to replace this with a thicker rad.

I did have an Alphacool UT60, I tried this originally but it seemed too big with the additional G1/4 ports at the top and the one on the bottom.

Looking through the thread it looks like some where able to make this fit? Does anyone have any other recommendations for a thicker rad?

I've been looking at the EK-CoolStream XE 120, I really like the look of it but not sure it'll fit. Has anyone tried this?
Edited by Sweetcheeba - 11/2/15 at 3:32am
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