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Of course its not a lot faster than current SB chips are. 1366 i7's weren't much if any faster than the 1155 counterparts. The difference is you get the 6 core / 12 thread chips, and more PCIe lanes.
2011 is the "enthusiast" version of 1155. Just like 1366 was the "enthusiast" version of 1156. There's not much difference between the enthusiast and mainstream platforms, that's why most of us opt for the mainstream. But for those with deep enough pockets, 2011 is a good purchase.
The lack of SATA 6Gb/s ports and USB 3.0 ports is disturbing if true though. Not true though, look at the P9X79 WS board. It's got 4 SATA 6Gb/s ports. The LOWER end boards only have 2. All of the x79 boards have USB3.0 though...at least on newegg.

They do indeed, not quite sure what the OP is babbling on about.
 
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I see it as a failure because of Ivy Bridge performance. I wouldn't be surprised if SB-e returns a negative profit.

SB-e = LGA 2011 Sandy Bridge
IB-e = LGA2011 Ivy Bridge

So ummm, durr? Of course SB-e isn't going to be as fast clock for clock as Ivy.
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I see it as a failure because of Ivy Bridge performance. I wouldn't be surprised if SB-e returns a negative profit.
Lol, first from where you know the performance of IVY? Do you have one? Did benchmarks and compared them with your SB-E build?
Second: SB-E (3XXX) was available maybe 1 week max. Then it ran out of stock. In ALL stores. ATM it is nearly impossible to get one here (in germany)!
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I think the whole thread is bogus. It is like asking: "Are there any processors that are better than BD?"
So not sure if serious.
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Of course its not a lot faster than current SB chips are. 1366 i7's weren't much if any faster than the 1155 counterparts. The difference is you get the 6 core / 12 thread chips, and more PCIe lanes.
2011 is the "enthusiast" version of 1155. Just like 1366 was the "enthusiast" version of 1156. There's not much difference between the enthusiast and mainstream platforms, that's why most of us opt for the mainstream. But for those with deep enough pockets, 2011 is a good purchase.
The lack of SATA 6Gb/s ports and USB 3.0 ports is disturbing if true though. Not true though, look at the P9X79 WS board. It's got 4 SATA 6Gb/s ports. The LOWER end boards only have 2. All of the x79 boards have USB3.0 though...at least on newegg.

I believe only 2 of the SATA 6Gb/s ports are Intel. The other 2 are some other third party brand like Marvell/Jmicron. The USB3.0 are provided by a third party controller like NEC or ASMedia. For the price Intel is asking of X79, they should have included more Intel SATA 6Gb/s ports and Intel USB3.0.
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Of course its not a lot faster than current SB chips are. 1366 i7's weren't much if any faster than the 1155 counterparts. The difference is you get the 6 core / 12 thread chips, and more PCIe lanes.
2011 is the "enthusiast" version of 1155. Just like 1366 was the "enthusiast" version of 1156. There's not much difference between the enthusiast and mainstream platforms, that's why most of us opt for the mainstream. But for those with deep enough pockets, 2011 is a good purchase.
The lack of SATA 6Gb/s ports and USB 3.0 ports is disturbing if true though. Not true though, look at the P9X79 WS board. It's got 4 SATA 6Gb/s ports. The LOWER end boards only have 2. All of the x79 boards have USB3.0 though...at least on newegg.

I believe only 2 of the SATA 6Gb/s ports are Intel. The other 2 are some other third party brand like Marvell/Jmicron. The USB3.0 are provided by a third party controller like NEC or ASMedia. For the price Intel is asking of X79, they should have included more Intel SATA 6Gb/s ports and Intel USB3.0.

Again, that's the same thing with P67 and Z68 boards. The Intel controller can only HANDLE 4x SATA II ports and 2x SATA III ports. It's something to do with the chipset, not the board. So yes, 2 of those ports are Marvell.

And the USB3.0 ports are ALL provided by a third party....on EVERY motherboard out right now.

So whats your point? The Intel chipset is at its limitations that it currently has. Nothing that can be done about it. All those "add on" parts like USB3.0 and the extra SATA ports aren't on the chipset, because the chipset lacks the room for it.
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Of course its not a lot faster than current SB chips are. 1366 i7's weren't much if any faster than the 1155 counterparts. The difference is you get the 6 core / 12 thread chips, and more PCIe lanes.
2011 is the "enthusiast" version of 1155. Just like 1366 was the "enthusiast" version of 1156. There's not much difference between the enthusiast and mainstream platforms, that's why most of us opt for the mainstream. But for those with deep enough pockets, 2011 is a good purchase.
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are all those use an intel chipset?
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The Intel chipset is at its limitations that it currently has. Nothing that can be done about it. All those "add on" parts like USB3.0 and the extra SATA ports aren't on the chipset, because the chipset lacks the room for it.
And lets not forget this was intel decision! Maybe they improve this when (whatever)79 is released.
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Of course its not a lot faster than current SB chips are. 1366 i7's weren't much if any faster than the 1155 counterparts. The difference is you get the 6 core / 12 thread chips, and more PCIe lanes.
2011 is the "enthusiast" version of 1155. Just like 1366 was the "enthusiast" version of 1156. There's not much difference between the enthusiast and mainstream platforms, that's why most of us opt for the mainstream. But for those with deep enough pockets, 2011 is a good purchase.
The lack of SATA 6Gb/s ports and USB 3.0 ports is disturbing if true though. Not true though, look at the P9X79 WS board. It's got 4 SATA 6Gb/s ports. The LOWER end boards only have 2. All of the x79 boards have USB3.0 though...at least on newegg.

are all those use an intel chipset?

2 are off Intel, 2 are from Marvell. That wasn't the original complaint of the OP though, he said lack of SATA III ports. I just proved otherwise. The controller it uses is a moot point (granted I do agree the Marvell ports suck pretty badly).

I see nothing at all wrong with the way its setup personally. You get the full Intel chipset, everything it can possibly do. And all of the boards have added on USB 3.0 (which there's not room on the chipset for). Plus on some boards, you get extra SATA ports (again, not enough room on the chipset, so these are added on).

It's the same with any other current setup.
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2 are off Intel, 2 are from Marvell. That wasn't the original complaint of the OP though, he said lack of SATA III ports. I just proved otherwise. The controller it uses is a moot point (granted I do agree the Marvell ports suck pretty badly).
I see nothing at all wrong with the way its setup personally. You get the full Intel chipset, everything it can possibly do. And all of the boards have added on USB 3.0 (which there's not room on the chipset for). Plus on some boards, you get extra SATA ports (again, not enough room on the chipset, so these are added on).
It's the same with any other current setup.

I do believe X79 is having a few revised boards for 2012 also.
 
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2 are off Intel, 2 are from Marvell. That wasn't the original complaint of the OP though, he said lack of SATA III ports. I just proved otherwise. The controller it uses is a moot point (granted I do agree the Marvell ports suck pretty badly).
I see nothing at all wrong with the way its setup personally. You get the full Intel chipset, everything it can possibly do. And all of the boards have added on USB 3.0 (which there's not room on the chipset for). Plus on some boards, you get extra SATA ports (again, not enough room on the chipset, so these are added on).
It's the same with any other current setup.

I do believe X79 is having a few revised boards for 2012 also.

So is 1155. They're supposed to be releasing an entire line of new boards with Ivy Bridge and Ivy Bridge- E. But the current boards will also work with the chips just fine.

Who knows, maybe with the next chipset we'll see integrated USB 3.0 and more SATA ports. I could care less honestly, I'm happy enough with the way my current board is setup.
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