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11/28/11 at 7:33am
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I'd also say a super high end board is not necessary.
If you find a motherboard with high quality components and decent power phases for cheap your probably going to be able to overclock pretty far on it.
Generally what I find is that the higher end boards offer more connection options, a better layout, or additional components like having 12 SATA connections on 3 controllers as opposed to maybe only 6 SATA connectors on 2 controllers, having a BIOS or UEFI.
If the core components of the board are high quality then that is what counts towards being able to try for a high overclock.

^i also concur..there are..diminishing returns..
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11/28/11 at 7:48am
There are diminishing returns when buying anything high end. There's always a point where your uses for the board are not even stressing the thing to it's limits and it's almost not worth it.

But I love having a board that can do everything I want it too, even if I don't need it to go balls out 24/7.
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11/28/11 at 7:56am
What was not really mentioned here is the most simple answer and that is the bios on the motherboard. Not all are the same and not all give you the same features. Your cheaper boards do not allow you to mess with as many settings so yes this is a major factor in achieving a stable overclock.
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11/28/11 at 8:43am
I just got this motherboard for a new 2600k build:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131792

I could not justify getting anything more expensive then this. And this board is functionally identical from my understanding to the deluxe version which costs almost $100 dollars more. The only differences are the amount of ports like firewire, and extra SATA etc.

And for anyone making a new system you should get a GEN3 board so you can use PCIe 3.0 for Ivy Bridge and new video cards. I almost bought my new set up before I learned about this.

I am not sure why it seems like they are hiding this information. Maybe they want everyone to be misinformed so they can sell all their PCI 2.0 boards first?
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11/28/11 at 8:57am
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no.. for general cpu overclocking 99.9 percent is on the cpu.. however the higher end boards usually can help with stability when benching with max clocks (especially with subzero temps) Some differences will be blck overclocking.. you can get higher blck on higher end boards vs lower end ones.. (however max mhz/ max multi will be the same)
Other features like better memory compatibility and more pci e slots (with nf200) are usually the reason why people opt for the higher end board. If you don't use more than 2 video cards, and don't plan to overclock using liquid nitrogen, dice, or phase change (and don't need some of the features that go along with boards tailored towards subzero) then i wouldn't suggest the MIVE or UD7 (i wouldn't suggest the ud7 anyways.. not very good with extreme benching.. blck limited oc'ing)

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11/28/11 at 11:14am
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I just got this motherboard for a new 2600k build:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131792
I could not justify getting anything more expensive then this. And this board is functionally identical from my understanding to the deluxe version which costs almost $100 dollars more. The only differences are the amount of ports like firewire, and extra SATA etc.
And for anyone making a new system you should get a GEN3 board so you can use PCIe 3.0 for Ivy Bridge and new video cards. I almost bought my new set up before I learned about this.
I am not sure why it seems like they are hiding this information. Maybe they want everyone to be misinformed so they can sell all their PCI 2.0 boards first?

Most of the newer boards will hav the capability to be flashed to gen 3 systems. You are just paying the extra $10 now for the board to come with it over the older bios versions. By the time the newer video cards will be out to take advantage of these boards you can bet there will be even newer cpu's out than ivy bridge which will mean a newer board will be needed because they will change the size of the chip yet again. I wouldn't worry about future proofing too much when it comes to CPU's and motherboards becuase they go hand in hand and when you need to replace one almost 99% of the time it means the other as well.

Get what makes you happy and suits your needs now.
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11/28/11 at 3:51pm
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thanks for the replies all...so i guess overclocking potential is very dependent upon CPU
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thanks for the replies all...so i guess overclocking potential is very dependent upon CPU

it is not all cpu... if you dont get a board that can push enough clean power efficiently you wont get stable clocks with the best/lowest voltages etc opposed to a mediocre board. The idea is once your at a certain point getting the higher end board is really only going to add you PCI-E slots, I/O panel ports etc etc... what you need to look for in a board is a good bios.. good cooling, good mosfets/vrms. and the most important to me... style smile.gif
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12/23/11 at 9:55pm
sure the board matters. it needs to supply good clean stable voltage. everything else is the chip.

pulled from this thread on this forum:
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1578110
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Official ASUS P8P67 Series Overclocking Guide and Information

K series overclocking benefits on different ASUS P67 motherboards

Quick Note Regarding Motherboard Stack – What does going higher in the board stack provide overclocking wise?
ASUS’ entire line of P67 motherboards features a class leading and high performance Digi+ VRM implementation that allows for superior overclocking performance; there will be differences between boards.
While our entire board lineup has been internally tested to fully support K series processors, when overclocking in multiplier ranges of 50 to 54x the higher end boards will benefit in two key categories.
1. Better Vdroop efficiency.
2. The ability to help drive and sustain a 50+ high load Overclock under maximum loads. Examples of boards that focus on this level are our Deluxe, WS, SABERTOOTH, and Maximus IV Extreme
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12/23/11 at 10:48pm
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sure the board matters. it needs to supply good clean stable voltage. everything else is the chip.
pulled from this thread on this forum:
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While our entire board lineup has been internally tested to fully support K series processors, when overclocking in multiplier ranges of 50 to 54x the higher end boards will benefit in two key categories.
1. Better Vdroop efficiency.
2. The ability to help drive and sustain a 50+ high load Overclock under maximum loads. Examples of boards that focus on this level are our Deluxe, WS, SABERTOOTH, and Maximus IV Extreme

i realize the board makes a difference...but the question i had in mind is, will it make a difference if you already have a DECENT board...in my case, P8P67 Pro....most people in this thread say its really up to the bin of the chip, IF YOU ALREADY have a decent board.

for Ivy Bridge, I might just go with a "Deluxe" type board next....Maximus 4 isn't really my thing, plus the price is too much for me to justify....you'll also never see me run 3x SLI, unless next gen nvidia cards scale incredibly well...but as of right now, I'm a big fan of 2 way and their bang for the buck
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