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Hey all, thanks in advance for at least taking a look at this question.

I noticed recently that my temperatures are rather high on my Gigabyte 5870 SOC (GV-R587SO-1GD). When I first got it in the summer of 2010, it was idling around 35C with an ambient of ~25.5C and now it's 52C shortly after startup with an ambient of ~21.6C. The first thing I did after noticing this was remove the heatsink and reapplied some MX-4 TIM. This reduced the idle temperature to 45C after letting the computer idle for 15 minutes, still way higher than it used to be. After 5 minutes on MSI Kombustor the temperature reaches a peak of 82C and bounces between 81-83C, higher that it was originally (~75C in the summer of 2010).

Should I be concerned over this? I'm familiar with most ATi/AMD gpu's that 100C is considered the standard maximum safe thermal limit. I've included a GPU-Z snapshot and an image of my card below.

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hmm..those temps are high..you say this just kinda started..hmm..possibly fan starting to fail? what's the fan profile look like?
 
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I just noticed this recently, I have no idea when exactly it started. I've got the fan controlled manually and set at 100% for the Kombustor test. The only thing of note is that the fan tach shows ~3550rpm and doubles occasionally (note the 2 speed spikes in the screenshot above). All fins and fan blades have recently (last week) been blown out and cleaned using an air compressor. And no, I did not let the fans spin while blowing them with air, surest way to destroy any fan is by over-spinning it.

EDIT - I may have been unclear in the OP, the screenshot was taken during the Kombustor test, not during idle. I've include the idle screenshot below.

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hmm..i think temp3 is vrms..check the sink placement/seating on those..umm..really..those are "within the norm". you can undervolt your gpu and it will run cooler..mine would get up to 76 if i didn't..and i use some kinda "ultra carbon" aftermarket sink with 110mm fans...check the screws that hold your sink on (the 4 on the bottom) see if they loosened up..use the correct screwdriver (a small phillips)
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All screws are tight thumb.gif and the heatsink only touches the vrm's, no paste or pads. I know my 4890 had enormous issues with them generating so much heat that some aftermarket heatsink makers, such as Thermalright, developed heatsinks specifically for them. Generally, I'm more bothered with the gpu temps than anything else as it's crept up 10C in ~15 months of nearly daily use (around 6 hours a day average).
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maybe you can contect to Gigabyte RMA,temp looks not good with windforce 2x.
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I have an interesting but slightly different issue. I got a Gigabyte GV-R587SO-1GD (your card) (I also upgraded the bios using the tool on their website.) Then I decided to go crossfire. That card was not available so I got a GV-R587OC-1GD.

The temperature of the newer card (OC not SOC) started to run high. I then looked at the videocard and was amazed to see that the fans for the OC card would spin when the computer would turn on but then would stop. They would not really start spinning until the card got hot.

The bios number is the same for the upgraded bios of the SOC card and the bios that came with the OC card. I tried to flash the bios from the SO website to the OC card (even though they had the same number) but it would not let me.

I am using MSI Afterburner. I have it set to start up with windows and I also have a fan profile so that it starts spinning at 40 and is ramping up quickly after that. Not the initial fan control which is just one value but the graph where speed is changed by temperature. The MSI Afterburner does make the OC fan work but there are oscillations in the tachometer. Much worse than what you are showing. My SO card is relatively stable. They both idle around 40 and get up to 70 or 80 when working hard. But I do have them downclocked to 800 MHz. I also have the OSD (On Screen Display) set in Afterburner so that I can see what is going on with the speeds and temps.

If I do not have Afterburner working then the OC card is ten degrees hotter than the SOC card until 80 degrees at which point they are about the same. I am guessing that the bios is finally telling the OC card to have the fans work full speed.

Suggestions: 1. Go to the Gigabyte website and see if you have the latest bios. It is unusual for a video card to have updated bios but this card does. 2. Open up your case and look at what the fan does when the computer starts to post before it gets into windows. Do the fans speed up and then slow down? 3. You can always settle like I am with using a fan profile (the graph) in Afterburner to keep the temperatures down by telling it what to do. I did not use the Gigabyte tool since it was a little more cumbersome than the MSI tool is. Also, I found that I had to keep the overclocking features of the Catalyst Control Center "locked" and not use them to make Afterburner work well.

Hope this helps.
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PLEASE DO NOT RMA for those with muti monitors setup.

 

Those temperatures are normal because you have more than one monitors hooked to the card. The core/memory clcoks are raised higher 400/1250 MHz to avoid flickerings. Easy test, just plug one monitor and it will lower the core/memory clocks hence lower idle temperatures.

 


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Excellent point, Ken1649. Multi monitors, crossfire, etc throw all sorts of intangibles into the mix.

As an aside, it will be nice when we see technological "advancement" give us less heat and less power consumption for lots better gpu performance. I see (rumor photos) that the new AMD 7000 series has two 8 pin power plugs and is giant in size. The CPU race on the other hand is wonderful. The latest intel products give fantastic performance and run at 33 degrees. But I guess that it is the whole different paradigm of making one chip better (the cpu) versus making lots more processors in one location (the gpu).

Regardless, do you have the F3 bios installed? Here are the purported changes listed on the Gigabyte website that the Gigabyte F3 bios update will do for the SOC.

1.ATi Source BIOS Version: 012.019.000.008
2.ECLK/MCLK is 950/1250 MHz
3.HYNIX memory
4.Enhanced smart fan function

The last thing about the enhanced smart fan function sounds like an interesting issue in regards to temps. That is why I tried (but did fail) to flash it onto my OC card. But it probably would have been a mistake to do so since it would have set the clock way too high.

When you are running less intense stresses than the Kombuster test such as Heaven DX11 do you see any change by downclocking your gpu? I see zero temperature benefit for crash prevention. When I would down or up clock the gpu it would crash or not crash but the crashes would not be related to the (reported) temperatures. Maybe it was voltage bleed over or something else but cooling does not seem to be the limiting factor.

But the heat of these cards do "age" the physical appearance of the products. All the paper labels, etc. are getting that nice brown crispy look.

Good luck.
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