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Multiplayer is a sport nothing more, and RTS is strategy and strategic thinking relies on creating alternate history scenarios. BF3 is a singleplayer game with a script resembling that of a book or a movie which its sole aim is to arouse certain emotions from visual depictions of relatable characters and set pieces.

This is not always true, for example, World in Conflict and Company of Heroes (WiC more-so) both play out with a more scripted storyline with direct characters and plots than most RTS, so they would fall into what you are describing.
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To this example, the military is allowed to have rules and regulations that members agreed to abide by. There is a big difference between a government funded agency (which in essence is what the military is) and the governmental laws for the people. Individual agencies need rules, and often those rules do not allow the same amount of freedom as a public citizen (just like every job in the private sector). Yet breaking those rules does not lead to jail time. It's either disciplinary action or being fired. Certainly in the military a dishonorable discharge sucks more than being fired for McDonalds, but it's not jail time.
Let me put it like this. Can you walk into your bosses office, call him every name in the book, and get arrested? No. Yet you will probably be fired. You have that right, you just don't have the right to be employed by them. That is why you follow their rules, and they are not infringing upon your rights (so many people think the opposite it makes me sick). Same thing with the military. Of course in the military you can't just up and quit if you don't like the rules. Yet that goes along with the choice of joining the military. When a person joins the military they understand they are giving up a bunch of things ordinary citizens take for granted, and if they don't like it too bad.

I wasn't using it as a direct argument. I was just saying it was the "closest" a game has gotten to becoming banned.
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A business deciding not to sell a product is not censorship. You can still get it if you so choose. You will not go to jail for it. You cannot force a business to sell every product under the sun.
As to what I stated before, there are plenty of Middle Eastern video games that support terrorism and you can play them if you like. You don't play as the US, you don't save the day as the US, in fact the US is the enemy. They are just not going to be sold at your corner store. #1, because they suck. #2, the anti American sentiment.
As for Aljazeera, What are you talking about? Sure, the FCC determines public airwaves since it's funded by the government and those bands are controlled by the US government. You can't just make a channel in those frequencies any time you like. As for being on cable or satellite, those are private companies that choose their own programming. It is, in fact, available on non FCC controlled bandwidths. It is also available in NYC on Time Warner Cable channel 92, is available on Roku for streaming, and I can go to their wedbsite right now. Pretty strange since it's banned, huh?
I swear, this is the crap I am talking about. Ignorance or lies. Sometimes both.


Yes yes you are right of course:

http://i.imgur.com/UDUZE.png
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Extra Credits touched on some very deplorable games in their segment about propaganda games. Many of these are filled with hate and racism, yet guess what, if you want to (or can, many are tough to find...often because they just suck as a video game) you can play them to your hearts content without fear of being arrested. There are many more examples, and EC left out some of the more recent examples since they don't want to advertise for those games.

Sure, if you are looking for child porn you are out of luck in the US. Yet other than things like that, if you want it, you can get it and can play it all you want without fear of arrest (well, at least legal arrest, yet that is a different subject).
Edited by being that guy - 11/29/11 at 1:20pm
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Yes yes you are right of course:
http://i.imgur.com/UDUZE.png

That is Time magazine's choice. They can choose to put on the cover whatever they want. I don't think you understand what censorship is. If a company feels people will not like something they are free to choose not to show it and it's not censorship. On the other hand, if the government intervenes and forces a company to change something, that is.

BTW...if you want those magazines, you can have them, read them, and display them all you want. It's not censorship. I have so sick of people having no idea what censorship is.
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This is not always true, for example, World in Conflict and Company of Heroes (WiC more-so) both play out with a more scripted storyline with direct characters and plots than most RTS, so they would fall into what you are describing.

Im not gonna talk about company of heroes, its a WW2 game its not relevant in any way to the stuff that happens today. I haven't played WiC, but im guessing it depicts Russians as bad guys even though you can choose to play them. The mere fact you have a choice between the two factions shows the game doesnt hold a bias and isnt particularly offensive and since its RTS it cant be taken seriously.

And lets not forget, the story is ludicrous at best, while BF3 deals with a realistic scenario that is not too exagerated and most likely to occur next year in some way. Iranians right now are fearing an american invasion the same way Americans fear an al qaeda attack. Lets see a game where you play al qaeda planning an attack in NY and lets see if it gets banned or not.
Edited by dioxholster - 11/29/11 at 1:22pm
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Im not gonna talk about company of heroes, its a WW2 game its not relevant in any way to the stuff that happens today. I haven't played WiC, but im guessing it depicts Russians as bad guys even though you can choose to play them. The mere fact you have a choice between the two factions shows the game doesnt hold a bias and isnt particularly offensive and since its RTS it cant be taken seriously.
And lets not forget, the story is ludicrous at best, while BF3 deals with a realistic scenario that is not too exagerated and most likely to occur next year in some way. Iranians right now are fearing an american invasion the same way Americans fear an al qaeda attack. Lets see a game where you play al qaeda planning an attack in NY and lets see if it gets banned or not.

The first WiC game displays the enemy (the Russians) as evil or bad, because they are attacking you. In the expansion pack the Americans are displayed as the bad guys. Also, a war between the US and Russia, is not particularly "Ludicrous," either.
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Im not gonna talk about company of heroes, its a WW2 game its not relevant in any way to the stuff that happens today. I haven't played WiC, but im guessing it depicts Russians as bad guys even though you can choose to play them. The mere fact you have a choice between the two factions shows the game doesnt hold a bias and isnt particularly offensive and since its RTS it cant be taken seriously.
And lets not forget, the story is ludicrous at best, while BF3 deals with a realistic scenario that is not too exagerated and most likely to occur next year in some way. Iranians right now are fearing an american invasion the same way Americans fear an al qaeda attack. Lets see a game where you play al qaeda planning an attack in NY and lets see if it gets banned or not.

While not an actual game, this video shows essentially the same thing. Been up for 2 years. Not censored. How can that be?
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The first WiC game displays the enemy (the Russians) as evil or bad, because they are attacking you. In the expansion pack the Americans are displayed as the bad guys. Also, a war between the US and Russia, is not particularly "Ludicrous," either.


Russia invading america is beyond ludicrous and has no relevancy. Plus all those james bond movies has killed the shock of russia being bad guys, they are not offended much, they know these games are meant to show them as a worthy adversary and not something else. As I said, it seems the game pulled a Clint Eastwood and showed both perspectives. Americans arent close to be at war with russia, the communist hate sentiment does not exist anymore therefore no harm comes from depicting Russians as good guys. An Alqaeda or Islamist good guy would be the more accurate comparison.
Edited by dioxholster - 11/29/11 at 1:50pm
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The U.S. would do the same thing. I agree. I have yet to play a game where I am a Nazi soldier defending Germany from invading Allies. Could you imagine the outcry from the Jewish Lobby in Washington and the rest of the U.S. populace that are pro-Israel?

hmm..company of heroes..lol
 
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