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    When they drive their prices down
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post #61 of 83
I said now, because I upgraded from AMD a monthish ago. When I built my last rig, AMD offered good multithreaded performance at a great, so I picked up a Phenom II x3 for $130 that was competing with the $210 E8400 and ~$320 Q6600 at the time. But AMD was still on the same, or a very similar architecture, while Intel has had two new iterations of their Core i lineup and has really pulled away from AMD in everything except the sub-$100 CPU market.
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Originally Posted by BallaTheFeared View Post

I had two Intel systems before going with the i5-2500k, a Pent 3, and a Pent 4. Both were bought by my mom, and when I was old enough to work I replaced the Pent 4 with a 3500+ I bought using my own money. Since then outside of laptops I haven't owned another Intel desktop chip until this i5.
I don't know what's sadder, the fact that AMD might fall out, or the fact that some AMD users are so wrapped up they can't see the writing on the wall. AMD is way behind in the desktop market, and have been for years. Bulldozer may have been AMD's last best hope and it's clear to everyone except the die hards that it failed.

This is bad news for everyone, even the Intel fans, and even worse for those of us who desire more power. If AMD gets out of the game, the only competition Intel will have in the market I'm in is themselves. Which means higher prices, and lower performance gains each gen. frown.gif

Same here, once I was able to start buying my own hardware every desktop proc I bought for myself was AMD. I've built Intel systems for friends that hated anything that wasn't intel because they had never heard of amd.

I've owned several pc's that I didn't pay for, and several I have, and they've all been AMD systems with the exception of our old 386 and 486.

Back in the Athlon XP/64 days AMD was wiping the floor with Intel.

And reading what you said gave me fond memories of the Athlon 64 days, I think you remember that infamous time when the 939 A64 3*** was out performing intel's $1000 EE proc.

As for right now, it comes down to extensive benchmarks since there's multiple cores, multi-threaded apps/games, and so many different varieties of architecture.

Regardless, listening to mods and people on this forum and going with this 2500k + OC setup blew my mind and was a solid decision considering I had an Athlon II X4 630 setup before this, all I really want now is another 570. The only hindrance I'll run into for the next year or 2 is a giant jump in Vram usage, and BF3 is already doing that, I'm glad I still don't have the 1gb 560ti, though some crazy powerful 560ti's are about to come out which almost seem like 570's.

I think AMDs dying, there's nothing else to say about it. While I'm sure they'll continue making procs because they can, they're clearly not going to make anything that will amaze anyone or offer better performance, which honestly does mean Intel will relax. But at the very least their might be competition in the mid-range proc market, which I think might be dominated by Intel since they'll continue making amazing procs which will cause previous ones to drop in price, I mean, the i5-2500k is down to 180 now, you simply can't beat that.
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Originally Posted by Fortunex View Post

I said now, because I upgraded from AMD a monthish ago. When I built my last rig, AMD offered good multithreaded performance at a great, so I picked up a Phenom II x3 for $130 that was competing with the $210 E8400 and ~$320 Q6600 at the time. But AMD was still on the same, or a very similar architecture, while Intel has had two new iterations of their Core i lineup and has really pulled away from AMD in everything except the sub-$100 CPU market.

You stand a very valid point.

This is what I've been questioning about upgrading or not the following year to Intel (couple months after IB is released), but something, call it tied overclocking, still four cores, or whatever you want to call it, still holds me to the Thuban.

I am the market towards the behemoths are targeted. I am the market the Xeon 8-core target. I am the market the Opteron 16C target. I rip, transcode, render, do CAD, fold, all those things; and I do them a lot. Just I don't have the funds to pay server grade hardware.

If Intel made a cheap quadcore Xeon that can be setup in dual socket configs (let's say, at $160 per processor, Nehalem cores), I'd get an SR2+2x Xeons in a heartbeat.

Same if AMD did a quadcore/quad module Bulldozer that can be dual-socketed. To me, cores>IPC, in a way. I benefit more from my Thuban than I would from a, let's say, i5-750 (to compare similar price points when I got my system); the same way I would benefit more from a dual socket, 4-core Phenom-based setup than I would from an i7 2600k.

Something pulls me to upgrade and get a new gen Xeon, and something stronger ties me to my Thuban. Probably it's just the fact that I already have the Thuban by the hand.
   
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post #64 of 83
Intel has always been overpriced for what you get, and this has been true for over 12 years that I have been building computers. The only Intel CPU I have owned was a Pentium 100mhz in an old Packard-bell that I threw away. I also, as a consumer, have the freedom to choose the product I like and want, and I like and want AMD. I work for my money, and I will spend it where I damn well please. thumb.gif
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post #65 of 83
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Originally Posted by Darkpriest667 View Post

According to AMD looks like we're all going to be going to Intel sooner rather than later. They basically said themselves they are not going to compete with Intel in the CPU market anymore. Only for mobile devices. Welcome to monopoly prices. I can't see the US govt allowing this to happen but if they do processors will cost 1000 dollars again.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/AMD-Not-Competing-With-Intel-Anymore-Goes-Mobile-237103.shtml
AMD's already had their lawsuit with Intel so the govt most likely no longer cares if Intel would have a true monopoly,even if AMD can take the mobile sector,Intel still owns over 90% of the market.
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Originally Posted by Artikbot View Post

None of them can be overclocked. What's the point of buying a new CPU if you can't have fun tweaking it? thumb.gif

Also, untrue.... You can overclock pretty much anything.... I have a Celeron 440, stock 2.0Ghz, Got it to 2.8Ghz.... What's the point? 800Mhz faster!

Should have posted in your first post that the thread was exclusively for AMD users only!

EDIT: Should make it poll only and lock the postings.... everyone will have comment's, AMD vs Intel thread, kinda!
You cannot overclock a non K Intel CPU.
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Now!! I've always been poor so I went with AMD since it was cheaper.. turns out in the long run it ended up being more expensive I got my 570 and overclocked the hell out of both my cpu an GPU and still my 955 was bottlenecking my 570 so hard even running at 4.2Ghz so I made a decision sold all of my amd stuff got some extra cash and went with my current setup. Never going back....
/beginrant
BTW to the guy who said he doesn't want to give Israel any money.. they make the CPUs in Malaysia and Costa Rica you know? I actually got one from My country (Costa Rica) Ironic since I had to pay taxes and shipping from the US for something that was made over here. Stupid goverment!!! mad.gif
/endrant
The Intel Core design was developed in Israel.
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Originally Posted by BallaTheFeared View Post

I had two Intel systems before going with the i5-2500k, a Pent 3, and a Pent 4. Both were bought by my mom, and when I was old enough to work I replaced the Pent 4 with a 3500+ I bought using my own money. Since then outside of laptops I haven't owned another Intel desktop chip until this i5.
I don't know what's sadder, the fact that AMD might fall out, or the fact that some AMD users are so wrapped up they can't see the writing on the wall. AMD is way behind in the desktop market, and have been for years. Bulldozer may have been AMD's last best hope and it's clear to everyone except the die hards that it failed.

This is bad news for everyone, even the Intel fans, and even worse for those of us who desire more power. If AMD gets out of the game, the only competition Intel will have in the market I'm in is themselves. Which means higher prices, and lower performance gains each gen. frown.gif
But good for Intel users right? Why do you even care in the first place? You're probably never going back to AMD,at the rate AMD is going,they won't have a competitive desktop processor for a while.
Intel doesn't see AMD as any threat,so they're pretty much only competing with themselves right now.
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But you don't own a 2500k so your opinion doesn't count and you can't make claims like that, you're just an Intel hater. thumb.gif
Coming from an Intel user in an AMD thread.
Edited by Heavy MG - 11/29/11 at 2:20pm
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post #66 of 83
<-Playing the wait and see game

Would like to go Intel because of faildozer, even with future revisions of 10-15% bump every year it is still puts them on par with current i5’s and still behind i7’s

But this will be a painful transition as I only had AMD systems since 2001 with socket A and Palomino 1800+

Intel seems to have more socket changes that are not backwards compatible; I’m still using an AM2+ mobo I bought in 2008, but with an AM3 processor that came out 6 months ago…show me a 3 year old Intel board compatible with current gen processors?


High end Desktop Since 2006,
AMD sockets: AM2, AM2+, AM3 & AM3+, CPUS are always backward compatible to previous gen

FM1 doesn’t count because it is not a high end desktop platform

Intel sockets: 775, 1366, 1156, 1155, and 2011/R nothing is backwards compatible.

If you want to run the high-end Intel CPU you have to pay for a “luxury” socket, because FU says Intel.

AMD needs to get their stuff together, so if steamroller or excavator delivers the goods I might go to an AM3+ mobo, but again wait and see what AMD comes out with, because I know Intel will go thru 3 more sockets by then.
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Intel has always been overpriced for what you get, and this has been true for over 12 years that I have been building computers. The only Intel CPU I have owned was a Pentium 100mhz in an old Packard-bell that I threw away. I also, as a consumer, have the freedom to choose the product I like and want, and I like and want AMD. I work for my money, and I will spend it where I damn well please. thumb.gif

Intel's not overpriced. You're just cheap. 220 dollars for a quad core that can hit 5ghz and push 3+ gpus is a downright bargin. How soon people forget when Amd charged 999.99 for their FX-60
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Intel's not overpriced. You're just cheap. 220 dollars for a quad core that can hit 5ghz and push 3+ gpus is a downright bargin. How soon people forget when Amd charged 999.99 for their FX-60



but 600 dollars for a 6 core... Right...



So we've got the usual intel trolls now... Karnage , Baller. Who's calling for thread cleanup cause its just become a bashfest.



Anyway when im forced to go intel after AMD cedes the enthusiast market to them I will really be bargain shopping.. because at 600 bucks for a processor that even hurts my budgetary constraints.
 
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600 dollars for a 6 core...
or 220 dollars for a 4 core that outperforms your 6 core.

Hmmm....
    
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Intel's not overpriced. You're just cheap. 220 dollars for a quad core that can hit 5ghz and push 3+ gpus is a downright bargin. How soon people forget when Amd charged 999.99 for their FX-60

Also how soon people forget when Intel charged $999.99 for their Pentium 4 EE.
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