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This is very bad for us on the consumer end.
No, I did not purchase the Newest AMD Processor because honestly I did not have the money to do so. Not to mention I had just gotten upgrades about 2 months before its release.
I switched to AMD because they are more reasonably priced than the Intel Processor of equal performance. Actually it was free thanks to an OCN Member. But regardless of that why would I want to pay almost $1,000 for Intel Core i7-980X Extreme Edition when I can get a AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition Thuban for $160? Thats 10% of the asking price of the Intel. Both are six core processors at about the same clock speed. Are you going to fully utilize any of the extra features in everyday general use on the Intel processor? Why pay the premium?

Not this again doh.gif

I mean, why would anyone buy a Corvette, Ferrari, Porsche, when the good'ol Corolla gets you to work and shopping just fine, for 1/20th the price? I mean, a 458 has a V8, a Chevy pickup has a V8, both similar in displacement, so why is the Ferrari SO much more expensive?

Let's turn your argument around. Find me an AMD cpu for $200 that can beat the 2500K in the majority of tests.
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post #222 of 349
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Originally Posted by Erick Silver View Post

Intel overcharges. That's all I have to say about it.

Please don't even. http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/146?vs=288

Most amd processors don't compare in gaming (which were over 70% of the pc market is) hence their shift in changing their focus, who knows they might not put as much into the cpu's as they did before but maybe they will be better?
post #223 of 349
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Originally Posted by chrisguitar View Post

Please don't even. http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/146?vs=288
Most amd processors don't compare in gaming (which were over 70% of the pc market is) hence their shift in changing their focus, who knows they might not put as much into the cpu's as they did before but maybe they will be better?

Don't pull statistics out of nowhere.
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post #224 of 349
Not to beat a dead horse and seeing as this has turned into some sort of reasoning as to why X company versus Y company makes Z product better than A's product, and so on and so on, and etc.

So I'll ask again and then some:

How much truth is there in the reporting, does anyone know?
How reliable is the reporting?
Where is the underlining truth if the reporting is only at 50% true?
    
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post #225 of 349
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No x86 license = no real hopes of a desktop processor.
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But with games not being able to run, what's the point of high end hardware? It's not like Facebook or youtube need high end quad cores.
There's no reason ARM wouldn't be a good desktop chip; it was actually originally designed for desktops. It's used in low-power applications because it's a fairly simple ISA and thus it just happens to be easy to make a low-power ARM chip; it was, however, never designed to be just a low power chip and there are no inherent limitations on scaling it up. Current ARM chips are slow because, well, they are mobile/embedded chips since there simply isn't demand for powerful ARM CPUs but if PC market goes ARM, demand will be created and more powerful desktop-grade ARM CPUs will eventually come out.
post #226 of 349
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It doesn't change the situation now, but Intel stealing one fifth of AMD's revenue when they could have dominated the market didn't help at all.

I'll agree what Intel did back then was borderline evil. However, to say that AMD would've otherwise dominated the market is a bit far fetched.

What AMD lacks is marketing and brand awareness; no body knows who they are and no one thinks you're "cool" if you have an AMD. Apple didn't become a giant by absolute dominating benchmarks, because outside of the enthusiast community no one cares.

Ask ten random iPhone users, what CPU and GPU their phone has, I'll bet 9 on them have no idea what a CPU / GPU is. In an imaginary world where AMD is as cool as Apple, their BD would thrive even if performance is where they are today.
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Seriously though, this sucks for everyone. Intel won't progress nearly as fast anymore and their prices will go up. I sure hope someone rich like Bill Gates or whoever comes along and dumps a ton of money into AMD.

Won't happen I'm afraid. Bill Gates didn't get to be a billionaire by pouring money into dud companies
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post #228 of 349
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If you look back when the Phenom 9500 and 9600 came out, the BD is having similar problems due to the new architecture. The first generation Phenoms where actually worse than what the BD is suffering from right now but now look at the Phenom. Phenom is now a awesome processor.
Give it time, like the Phenom needed time to become what it is today, the BD will become even better. I guess you guys forget what happens when AMD and even Intel comes out with new architecture like Phenom or Pentium. They both had similar problems with new architecture when it first came out. Over a little time though they turned out to be great processor.
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AMD doesn't have time to let it mature this time around,since then Intel has taken even more of the market and ARM is targeting desktops.
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So you expect AMD to release a competitive product when they have so little resources their whole budget for one year is as how much Intel spends in a month?

So my question (and it is a genuine question) is: how did they do it back in the K7 and K8 days? Are they simply being lazy nowadays, or is Intel actually awake?

Perhaps the more important questions is, who's problem is it? Can they simply blame the consumer for their lack of R&D funding, and expect us to buy their product regardless of performance, just to fund them?
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post #230 of 349
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AMD doesn't have time to let it mature this time around,since then Intel has taken even more of the market and ARM is targeting desktops.

You realize anything ARM on the desktop in 1 to 2 years away at best. How do they not have a few years to iron out the problems with Bulldozer. Sure Intel will be faster with Ivy Bridge or whatever they have at the time, but Bulldozer will be plenty fast for most everything out there.
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