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Originally Posted by -Allen- View Post

2500k. It's going to keep up with the latest games a lot longer than the 955. If you look at this benchmark: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/288?vs=120
It absolutely blows the 955 out of the water.
I was just like you 2 weeks ago, deciding on the 2500k and 955. Glad I chose the 2500k.

ummm ,

Your comparing a dual core to a quad there...

Is this what you meant? :

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/288?vs=102

I still agree however, the 2500k is a great processor and has much more life in it than a AMD x4.

(not to mention the OC ability. Then your dealing with a screamer)
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2500k is ..considerably better..probably about 10 fps avg per game..with the same videocard..it's ..very nice biggrin.gif
 
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post #13 of 30
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ummm ,
Your comparing a dual core to a quad there...
Is this what you meant? :
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/288?vs=102
I still agree however, the 2500k is a great processor and has much more life in it than a AMD x4.
(not to mention the OC ability. Then your dealing with a screamer)

My bad, that is what I meant. The performance is still a lot better though.
    
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I'm sorry I wanted to see where the Phenom II's (especially overclocked) are, to quote, "showing their age and already struggling with newer games."

Because I highly doubt any Phenom II X4 or better at 3.6Ghz or better is truly "struggling" with any game. That's just nonsense. wink.gif
    
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I'm sorry I wanted to see where the Phenom II's (especially overclocked) are, to quote, "showing their age and already struggling with newer games."
Because I highly doubt any Phenom II X4 or better at 3.6Ghz or better is truly "struggling" with any game. That's just nonsense. wink.gif
So you're just adding this without actually checking any facts or citing any sources. Because if you did, you'd realize that even at 4.0 Ghz a Phenom II X4 bottlenecks high-end GPUs.
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So you're just adding this without actually checking any facts or citing any sources. Because if you did, you'd realize that even at 4.0 Ghz a Phenom II X4 bottlenecks high-end GPUs.

confused.gif

What does this have to do with my statement/question where I asked how a Phenom II (overclocked albeit) is, "showing their age" when playing modern games? The point I'm trying to make is that even a Phenom II X4 955BE is still plenty for modern and probably upcoming games especially if clocked at 3.6 or better, perhaps even at stock.

While we as a community here do shoot for the stars, everyone's experience, expectations, and mindset are different. I prefer to play all FPS games at 100FPS or better, however I'm averaging 60's with BF3 with minor dips rarely into the 30's. It is still an excellent experience for me.

So, once again, I'm not sure what having two high-end GPU's and a Phenom II X4 at 4Ghz has to do with my statement/question.
    
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Intel i5 is the superior chip. By far.

I switched from a 1090T Thuban, and immedietly saw the gains. Faster boot times, loading, daily usage was so much smoother. And then FPS in games was considerably better... with the same setup as I had with the 1090T. And it will be future proof foor a bit with IVY coming out.

Intel by far dude. Its a little more expensive to get going with, but truly the better value.

The only thing i miss from AMD, the boards had a lot of cool little features, and usually LOOKED better...
post #18 of 30
GPU matters more for [properly coded] games these days, but like another person said, you could/should buy the AMD retail pro package and sell the 955 on eBay or something.

Aren't you not allowed to sell items from retail pro packages, though?


And i5 2500k > Phenom II 955, no contest.
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confused.gif
What does this have to do with my statement/question where I asked how a Phenom II (overclocked albeit) is, "showing their age" when playing modern games? The point I'm trying to make is that even a Phenom II X4 955BE is still plenty for modern and probably upcoming games especially if clocked at 3.6 or better, perhaps even at stock.
While we as a community here do shoot for the stars, everyone's experience, expectations, and mindset are different. I prefer to play all FPS games at 100FPS or better, however I'm averaging 60's with BF3 with minor dips rarely into the 30's. It is still an excellent experience for me.
So, once again, I'm not sure what having two high-end GPU's and a Phenom II X4 at 4Ghz has to do with my statement/question.
I'm answering your question, it shows it's age by not being able to power modern video cards. A Phenom II X4 is not enough for modern CPU-dependent games if you have a high-end video card or are usual dual-GPUs, even when overclocked to 4.0 Ghz.

You don't have to "shoot for the stars" to get better performance than a Phenom II X4, the i3-2100 is faster than a Phenom II at 4.0 Ghz in gaming while costing less overall.
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I'm answering your question, it shows it's age by not being able to power modern video cards. A Phenom II X4 is not enough for modern CPU-dependent games if you have a high-end video card or are usual dual-GPUs, even when overclocked to 4.0 Ghz.
You don't have to "shoot for the stars" to get better performance than a Phenom II X4, the i3-2100 is faster than a Phenom II at 4.0 Ghz in gaming while costing less overall.

A) A Phenom II is more than sufficient to power a single high end card.
B) Dual cards are a small niche of the PC gaming world, that's a reality.
C) Expectations, performance, and experiences all differ from individual to individual, again - a reality.
D) A Phenom II is more than sufficient to handle any game currently out.

No one including myself isn't saying there aren't better options and I'm certainly not saying that the i5 2500K isn't a better choice. What I am simply trying to point out is, a Phenom II X4 or better, especially overclocked, is perfectly fine for today's games. How is that so hard to soak up?
    
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