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Confirmed that there is to be a windows 7 scheduler update in the near future and of course Windows 8 next year. The answers seemed a little vague but definitely has some promises. Please no thrashing and bashing AMD or their FX lineup, thats been done wayyyy to much. This is more of a positive note and personally Im excited of things to come. Go read it and come back and post thoughts here. (hoping hasnt been posted here yet)

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Nice find gonna read now biggrin.gif Hoping things run stronger, I wouldnt mind buying another 8150
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Nice find gonna read now biggrin.gif Hoping things run stronger, I wouldnt mind buying another 8150

Hey thanks, I know some people will be so negative but I think there are good things to come outta this architecture. AMD seems to be working with many developers to push towards a more threaded future. I have been waiting on the answers on [H] for over a month now and just happened to stumble upon it.
    
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How can they say BD is for High-Resolution gaming and multi tasking when X6 is better then it in every way.
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I like to think of Bulldozer as a caged beast. Right now, it's not performing at its best because of the scheduling problem, bad 32nm process, use of older instruction sets and lack of support for multi-threading.

Scheduling problem is being addressed... 32nm process can't really get any worse and hopefully GloFo figures out what the heck they're doing soon... use of older instruction sets will slowly be phased out... and eventually more cores will be utilized.

I really love it when people just ask for a die shrunk Thuban with 2 more cores. The amount of people here that think they're electrical engineers specializing in VLSI is quite humorous.

Anyways, I wasn't really buying what AMD was answering for a lot of the questions. Right now, there really isn't much of a reason to buy an 8 core FX over an i5 SB or even a Phenom II. I guess if you're only ever going to play Civ V and Metro 2033 it'd be worth it, but the majority of the software we OCN members use do not benefit more from Bulldozer.
Edited by Homeles - 11/29/11 at 9:36pm
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Hope the scheduler does the wonder.

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I like to think of Bulldozer as a caged beast. Right now, it's not performing at its best because of the scheduling problem, bad 32nm process, use of older instruction sets and lack of support for multi-threading.
Scheduling problem is being addressed... 32nm process can't really get any worse and hopefully GloFo figures out what the heck they're doing soon... use of older instruction sets will slowly be phased out... and eventually more cores will be utilized.
I really love it when people just ask for a die shrunk Thuban with 2 more cores. The amount of people here that thing they're electrical engineers specializing in VLSI is quite humorous.

Thats what i kinda imagined myself, AMD when they started designing this cpu however many years ago I think planned on software being much more multi threaded than it is. Its like having a quad core back when only dual cores were needed, I remember reading so many reviews say how "it will get faster in time" and such.

I cant wait for that windows 7 patch and new reviews, may not be a MASSIVE improvement but 10% is pretty large when you think it only came from a patch
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Thats what i kinda imagined myself, AMD when they started designing this cpu however many years ago I think planned on software being much more multi threaded than it is. Its like having a quad core back when only dual cores were needed, I remember reading so many reviews say how "it will get faster in time" and such.
I cant wait for that windows 7 patch and new reviews, may not be a MASSIVE improvement but 10% is pretty large when you think it only came from a patch

Yes I agree 10 % would be a really nice improvement overall in my book. Cause its like "almost there" but not quite and that extra boost will be just right.. smile.gif
    
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To be honest, Bulldozer, like AMD said, is server oriented CPU. AMD is at fault for releasing Bulldozers when Windows 7 wasn't ready for them.

Also AMD is kinda of dodging the question, instead just throws percentage number out there. Would really love to see a detail comparison.
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Nice find! Still not holding my breath. This bulldozer flop is a lot like the phenom I flop, and today's economy will likely not provide a stable enough base to see the Bulldozer II.
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