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Having to kill this build for now, as my Main project is taking priority since I was able to get a hand on a 8150 through normal means.



So, A friend dared me to do a Mini Watercooling build, because he thinks it cant be done.

Goal = Well, there really is not a goal, its to beat his fullsized system with a little box of pain. I think I might call this build "The Mini Box of Pain." I am currently away from home training for a different position in my job, so I decided to design something I might build if the time is right when I get back.

Case = Lian Li Classic PC-A05NB

This is a Mini Tower computer case. Yes, Its tiny, its deeper than it is wide (har har) and it is going to be EXTREMELY tight if I want more storage than 1 SSD. But with todays innovations in USB 3.0, Why should I need anything more than a SSD inside of the case? Besides, Im going to put a 120MM rad in the front and make it glow red... Like the devil...



Motherboard = Still Debating this choice, but I want to use an ASUS F1A75-I Deluxe with the newer AMD Llano chipset. Possibly do a hybrid crossfire-x setup. Mostlikely just going to disable the onboard graphics and not use them at all.

Memory = CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB

SSD = Crucial M4 128 GB Solid State Drive (Dont need lots of storage, thats what an external is for in this case)

Dedicated Video = EVGA SuperClocked GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi)

Surprisingly that is ALL the hardware I am going to use... Go figure, dont need much since its so small. (And mostly every game and media I use is Digital and I can use one of my Laptops to put it on a USB Drive)

Water Coooooling Time!

Pump = Alphacool VPP655 - G1/4 IG complete with D5 HF Top

Rads = Black Ice® GT Stealth 120 Highest Performance Radiator

CPU Block = Swiftech APOGEE XT REV 2

GPU Block = Swiftech MCW82
GPU Passive Cooler = Swiftech GTX560-HS Heatsink
More to come, when I figure it out tongue.gif

Wed 5:26 PM CDT (Changed the GPU Blocks)

Loop is mostlikely going to be Pump - CPU - RAD 1 (Front Pull) - GPU - RAD 2 (Rear Push) - RAM - Res
Edited by PeteJM - 12/3/11 at 8:49pm
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I love this case. Best mini case that can still hold an ATX rig ever! Subbed!
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My plan is to use all that extra space from the Mini-ITX board for the watercooling bits. If anyone has a better motherboard to use that will actually FIT in the case, please tell me. This is going to be a VERY interesting build however.
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I don't think the superclocked 560 Ti is necessary. For a little more, you can get a 6950 Dirt 3 Edition that can unclock. It's the model with I believe SL at the end. Plus, it's the only card that says Dirt 3 edition in the name. There are ones that look like it but aren't. And get a Raystorm. Best block so far IIRC. Go check martinsliquidlab.

Oh, I'm not a big fan of Corsair but I've heard some good things about vengeance but that RAM is just horrible. Get something with lower timings. I remember seeing a G.Skill 4GB kit at CL7 at 1600 that runs on 1.5v. G.Skill sells the same kit but with black heatsinks and clocked at CL6 but it isn't available in the states and it's still at 1.5v. frown.gif
Edited by HybridCore - 11/30/11 at 3:31pm
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I don't think the superclocked 560 Ti is necessary. For a little more, you can get a 6950 Dirt 3 Edition that can unclock. It's the model with I believe SL at the end. Plus, it's the only card that says Dirt 3 edition in the name. There are ones that look like it but aren't. And get a Raystorm. Best block so far IIRC. Go check martinsliquidlab.

EDIT: Looking into the 6950s length...

Not using a Raystorm, its average. I would rather go with the same company for the water blocks, I have had good experience with the Swiftechs in the past for builds I have done for friends. Plus a 0.5 - 2.0C difference in temps is negligible.
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A 6950 is not PCI-E 2.0, this board does not support PCI-E 2.1
Not using a Raystorm, its average. I would rather go with the same company for the water blocks, I have had good experience with the Swiftechs in the past for builds I have done for friends. Plus a 0.5 - 2.0C difference in temps is negligible.

It should work. I'm not a pro with this stuff but I remember PCIe being backwards compatible with lower versions. Ex. PCIe 3.0 cards are compatible with PCIe 2.0/2.1 boards but run at 2.0/2.1 speeds. If you use a PCIe 2.0/2.1 card in a 3.0 lane, it'll just operate at 2.0/2.1 speeds.

Really? It seems to perform very well and I see your reason. And check the edit in my previous post.
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It should work. I'm not a pro with this stuff but I remember PCIe being backwards compatible with lower versions. Ex. PCIe 3.0 cards are compatible with PCIe 2.0/2.1 boards but run at 2.0/2.1 speeds. If you use a PCIe 2.0/2.1 card in a 3.0 lane, it'll just operate at 2.0/2.1 speeds.
Really? It seems to perform very well and I see your reason. And check the edit in my previous post.

Good point, I think I had a bit of a brain fart when picking graphics cards tell you the truth. Totally forgot about the PCI-E Backward compatibility.

Looking at the Memory now, I usually try to get things that are on the QVL List.
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Good point, I think I had a bit of a brain fart when picking graphics cards tell you the truth. Totally forgot about the PCI-E Backward compatibility.
Looking at the Memory now, I usually try to get things that are on the QVL List.

I think you were thinking about memory since every level of DDR is only compatible with itself.
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I think you were thinking about memory since every level of DDR is only compatible with itself.

Il accept that, to make myself look less like a troglodyte.

Looking at memory, the only G-Skill I can find that looks semi-decent are these.

http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=249

Tighter Timings

http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=247

Hmm, Interesting. Not really good at choosing memory tell you the truth.
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