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Originally Posted by inox View Post

Thanks for feedback somiao, about m1/2 I think they are fine in DA, but probably can adapt to a little harder switches. And the problem is, DA is my first good mouse and I have no idea about ergonomic / ambidextrous in high end mouses. No clue if I'm gonna mind difference, since DA is ergonomic right? I'm not comfortable with DA and dunno if the problem is directly in it's weight or design itself. It just makes my hand "tired" when I play some intense matches in games. Do you find AM fine for long intensive usage? Still probably I'm gonna take a shot and buy it, than sell it if I won't get used to it.

The DA is not ergonomic, it should be good for long games because it has a low LOD. I think you probably grip way to tight.
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@SoFGR
They use custom lens - kingsis(see first post), and my guess is that this lens is 0.65.
3500*0.65=2275
1800*0.65=1170
700*0.65=455
Remember that DPI values are approximate.
This also explains better performance than in other mice with this sensor.
post #143 of 206
I too get wrist fatigue with the deathadder, which is why i use the abyssus. Ill post when my zowie am comes in about it.
post #144 of 206
I dont have a qck with me but should be fine, seems like you mind the weight, AM will be quite a bit lighter.
Honestly I prefer the 3.0/EC shape(ergo) but AM's sensor behaves more like the 3.0 on the prediction part so its my main mouse atm.
Yeah the DA is ergo, use to have the 1800dpi, sensor is damn near perfect but lod is not good enough for me, didnt quite like the shape either too edgy.
I'm not going to lie, yes i get fatigue from long gaming sessions on the AM but that probably due to my IME3.0 syndrome tongue.gif
Since you didnt like the DA which is fine for alot opf users, I'm guessing you prefer something smaller, should prolly try the AM out, dont know if any hardware stores carry samples so you guys can try it before purchase.
Damn I duno if my explanation is enough, do you guys feel like the need for a review?
post #145 of 206
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Originally Posted by inox View Post

Should I get AM if:
1. Deathadder is way too heavy for me.
2. Deathadder is slightly too big.
3. My grip is hybrid of palm and claw grip.
4. I need mouse with flawless tracking with DPI in range of 800-1200.
Or should I get some other mouse like Zowie EC1/2, idk if I can handle prediction, but people claim it's prediction is almost not noticable.

U should at least try it. I'm in a similar situation and I also have a Xai and I really like the shape. Though I'm going to order the AM (just waiting for it to be available in Belgium in typical gamegear stores) to see if I can get the same shape but with more consistent performance (no pos accel).
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post #146 of 206
So, you preffer IMO/EC shape over AM's. How about performance difference between your AM and EC for you? Does AM outperforms EC alot?
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Originally Posted by AquaSurfer View Post

@SoFGR
They use custom lens - kingsis(see first post), and my guess is that this lens is 0.65.
3500*0.65=2275
1800*0.65=1170
700*0.65=455
Remember that DPI values are approximate.
This also explains better performance than in other mice with this sensor.

The lens diameter looks way too big to be x0.65, but I could be wrong.
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Originally Posted by Skar 
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Thanks Skar wink.gif

That lens diameter is huge. (x1.25?) I thought they would be using a smaller lens, but this is intriguing.

Assuming the kingsis lens was originally intended to modify Agilent/Avago's early ADNS-3060 from 400/800 > Up to 525/1050 CPI....

1800 CPI x 1.25= 2250>2300. Placement could be modified either up or down~

Meaning... The two lower steps are custom values of around 340~ and 900. That is, if I'm correct tongue.gif

http://www.overclock.net/t/1177120/zowie-am-gs-pictures-not-really-a-review


It was also later discovered that the mouse performs it's best at its 2300 CPI setting which I would assume is it's 1800 CPI native step.

Speculation until a zowie rep can clarify. ;D
Edited by Skylit - 12/7/11 at 2:02pm
post #148 of 206
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Originally Posted by Zhuni View Post

I think the problem Zowie will have is the price of their mice. If you want to offer rock solid basic mice to the mainstream they have to be at a more reasonable price. I.E £39.99-£42.99
I love Zowie products and even though I like stripped down mice even I think they are a little over priced so for the average consumer they simply wont understand the price point (case in point I just got a deathadder at £27.99 and picked up the AM for £53.50 delivered). This has been my experience on less experienced forums when I've seen Zowie mentioned.
In terms of what I've been most happy with in products Zowie has rated the highest for me so many thanks for that.thumb.gif
We are actually priced equally or cheaper than the more established brands when you look at the MSRP (Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price), but those companies have had more time to destroy their price structure in retail. They are pushing very hard to be represented in every retail store so they can sell units units units. The retail stores competes on price with other larger outlets (or internet webshops), ending up dumping the prices to be cheaper than their competitors. That is of course not bad for you as a consumer, but it puts a lot of pressure on the company, as the retailers will continue to demand cheaper products in order to continue to make a profit after they have dumped the prices.

Example:
Sensei MSRP: 90 EUR
Xai MSRP: 80 EUR
Naga MSRP: 80 EUR
Imperator MSRP: 70 EUR
DeathAdder MSRP: 60 EUR

If we put our MSRP following a damaged price structure, we would not be able to survive as a company, as both distributors and retailers demand a rather large percentage of profit.
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Originally Posted by Sasuke2525 View Post

Anywhere else? I don't trust them since I got banned for 5 years and did absolutely nothing wrong. Guess I will have to order from newegg on the 23rd.
Nowhere else right now, Amazon usually picks up rather quickly, but I have not received any reports that they would be on the AM until after Xmas unfortunately.
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Originally Posted by nubki11a View Post

Thanks a lot for your reply! I will definitely call some of the webshops up and ask them.
Just one small point, why is the Zowie AM available for $56 (€42) in the US, while it costs €60 in the EU!
PS. I appreciate the way Zowie handles their customers smile.gif I don't know a lot of companies that have representatives on forums.
The price in US should be 59,90 USD, I am sure ESEA has just read the price upside down, or perhaps they are cutting off a few USD as an introduction. wink.gif. The reason we have an equal price structure in USD and EUR is because US pricing is without sales tax and EU is including.
post #149 of 206
Does the AM will be in Ivory (your Israel retailers store) with the rest of the world during/after Hannuka (in the same time as Xmas if I dont wrong)?
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Just got mine, heres poor quality pic about the size: http://i8.aijaa.com/b/00165/9182894.jpg
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