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Just a quick kinda offtopic question..... if a monitor is 5ms, would u notice a difference in gaming compared to a 2ms?

Yes and no.

Waaaat you say

Shut up I say, I'm not finished.

Basically, that 5ms is worthless for several reasons.

1: It's rarely accurate when actually tested. So yes and no.

2: If I threw a bag of skittles at you, could you catch one between your fingers? That'd be a rough estimate of whether you have the reflexes to where 3ms matter.
post #22 of 58
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Originally Posted by Denim-187 View Post

Just a quick kinda offtopic question..... if a monitor is 5ms, would u notice a difference in gaming compared to a 2ms?

Yes and no.

Waaaat you say

Shut up I say, I'm not finished.

Basically, that 5ms is worthless for several reasons.

1: It's rarely accurate when actually tested. So yes and no.

2: If I threw a bag of skittles at you, could you catch one between your fingers? That'd be a rough estimate of whether you have the reflexes to where 3ms matter.
In short, 5ms and 2ms aren't that different.
It depends on the panel.
2ms vs CRt though... oh hahaha...

If only TFT's where like the CRT's at 100+Hz...
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post #23 of 58
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In short, 5ms and 2ms aren't that different.
It depends on the panel.
2ms vs CRt though... oh hahaha...
If only TFT's where like the CRT's at 100+Hz...

GIVE IT TIME.

The future is coming.

Just like a highschool quarterback on prom night.

And 120hz is DAMN close to being as good as CRT.
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Just a quick kinda offtopic question..... if a monitor is 5ms, would u notice a difference in gaming compared to a 2ms?

Nope, besides that measurement is the GTG response. Anything under 5ms is good for gaming, over 8ms you'd notice lag....
 
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Just a quick kinda offtopic question..... if a monitor is 5ms, would u notice a difference in gaming compared to a 2ms?

You can't trust a response time to describe the amount of pixel responsiveness to you, or somehow think it's input lag, which plenty of people seem to think.


My "2ms" LG W2442PA-BF TN panel has more ghosting and more input lag than my LP3065, an old S-IPS panel rated at "8ms" by a long shot. It doesn't even come close to the LP3065, it's that bad.
^^^^ Just an example for why they aren't reliable. Both are supposed to be gray to gray numbers.

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Nope, besides that measurement is the GTG response. Anything under 5ms is good for gaming, over 8ms you'd notice lag....

Incorrect. Response time is not input lag, it's meant to describe pixel responsiveness, not the time it takes for the image to display. Plenty of 2ms and 5ms TN panels have high input lag. Most probably don't, but there's been an awful lot of cases on OCN where someone buys a panel and thinks the response time will quarantee a lagless display, and receives a panel with 20ms of input lag, just because they were uninformed and didn't do their research on the input lag of the panel.

And you can't exactly describe ghosting as lag, not to mention that it's not accurate.
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You can't trust a response time to describe the amount of pixel responsiveness to you, or somehow think it's input lag, which plenty of people seem to think.
My "2ms" LG W2442PA-BF TN panel has more ghosting and more input lag than my LP3065, an old S-IPS panel rated at "8ms" by a long shot. It doesn't even come close to the LP3065, it's that bad.
^^^^ Just an example for why they aren't reliable. Both are supposed to be gray to gray numbers.
Incorrect. Response time is not input lag, it's meant to describe pixel responsiveness, not the time it takes for the image to display. Plenty of 2ms and 5ms TN panels have high input lag. Most probably don't, but there's been an awful lot of cases on OCN where someone buys a panel and thinks the response time will quarantee a lagless display, and receives a panel with 20ms of input lag, just because they were uninformed and didn't do their research on the input lag of the panel.
And you can't exactly describe ghosting as lag, not to mention that it's not accurate.

Yeah the misconception about ghosting and input lag is rampant. It's so bad when I start to ague with someone about it I even start to doubt myself and have to look up proof on the web. I mean everyone thinks response time is a lag measurement and when your having a debate with a couple of people and you are the only one saying that its has to do with ghosting I really start to think I may be wrong.

Response time = Ghosting thumb.gif

I think the manufactures of monitors are happy with the confusion. I mean just look at "dynamic contrast ratio" mad.gif Sad thing when we were looking for a T.V. I thought dynamic ratio was important until I did my research

Ok stepping off my soapbox tongue.gif
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those 460's won't handle 2500*1600 at all, but it is a very nice image compared to 1080p.
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Thanks for clearing some things up, I remember reading somewhere most of the advertised specs of monitors are worthless. Well at least it's not as clear cut. Marketing at its finest!
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Thanks for the informative replies guys, I always enjoy nerding out with this kind of information. That aside, I had been considering a 30" monitor of one type or another as of late because it seems like the next best upgrade that will yield the most tangible results. Though this would require me to upgrade my 5830 in my desktop, I had considered it. I purchased a decent laptop instead so it will have to wait now though. I wish stores like fry's or best buy carried more high end enthusiast gear and had it up for demonstration. We can throw words around all day and describe "what it feels and looks like" but the images my mind creates are probably more than a little inaccurate. Thanks again for the info, OP let us know what you decided I'd love to see your final reaction and why you make the choice you do.
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Thanks for clearing some things up, I remember reading somewhere most of the advertised specs of monitors are worthless. Well at least it's not as clear cut. Marketing at its finest!

No most of them are! worthless. Best thing to do when buying a t.v. or pc monitor see it in person and read alot of reviews about the specific model you like. I know it's hard to see one in person, personally I never seen a IPS in person until I bought my HP. So in cases like this you have to relie on multiple reviews.

On top of that you can always PM De-zant and he can point you to some good reviews. Maybe even give you his opinion thumb.gif
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