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post #11 of 14
Honestly what you have build just can't handle transferring 2TB worth of stuff in a timely manner.
What drives do you EXACTLY have?

The Beast kinda hit it spot on. Is your server doing anything while your trying to back up? Also what are the specs of the server?

96 hours is INSANE, that's terrible speed, somethings holding this back but we need as much info as we can get thumb.gif




What I would do in your shoes:
Junk windows 7 and put freenas on your box (low overhead and designed for this)
Get a cheap gigabyte nic on the freenas box (assuming the switch/router you have is gigabit and so is the ESXi Server your backing up from)


Drive Setup:
For specifics I'd have to see what kinda of drives you have, but setting up a ZFS array (raid 5) would be ideal.
post #12 of 14
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Originally Posted by swat565 View Post

Honestly what you have build just can't handle transferring 2TB worth of stuff in a timely manner.
What drives do you EXACTLY have?

The Beast kinda hit it spot on. Is your server doing anything while your trying to back up? Also what are the specs of the server?

96 hours is INSANE, that's terrible speed, somethings holding this back but we need as much info as we can get thumb.gif




What I would do in your shoes:
Junk windows 7 and put freenas on your box (low overhead and designed for this)
Get a cheap gigabyte nic on the freenas box (assuming the switch/router you have is gigabit and so is the ESXi Server your backing up from)


Drive Setup:
For specifics I'd have to see what kinda of drives you have, but setting up a ZFS array (raid 5) would be ideal.
 


sorry, but much of this isn't really relevant yet - he's transferring at ~5MB/s currently.  Any drive/array can beat that, Windows is more than capable of matching that (even XP with SMB1 can do that), and even the crappiest gigabit onboard cards can more than meet that.  As for the box hardware - a P3 can do full speed gigabit transfers, so that can't be the issue either.

 

It will either be the source or destination drives badly set up (not aligned, or simply doing other things during the transfer), or a network issue causing problems along the way.  Until that's sorted out there's no point making any other changes.

post #13 of 14
^ +1
2 TB @ 96 hours = ~5.8 MB/s

That sounds like my wireless G speeds. Even over a 100 MBit/s connection you can still expect 10-12 MB/s transfers. Defintiely sounds like a weak link somewhere.

Possible scenarios:

- If it's a ton of small files, would decrease speed
- Disc on either side of transfer is heavily fragmented
- Your RAID controller stinks
- 1 or both of your drives in RAID 1 are going bad
- Network controller fault (very unlikely, should work or not work period)
- Switch could have problems
- Router could have problems
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post #14 of 14
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sorry, but much of this isn't really relevant yet - he's transferring at ~5MB/s currently.  Any drive/array can beat that, Windows is more than capable of matching that (even XP with SMB1 can do that), and even the crappiest gigabit onboard cards can more than meet that.  As for the box hardware - a P3 can do full speed gigabit transfers, so that can't be the issue either.

It will either be the source or destination drives badly set up (not aligned, or simply doing other things during the transfer), or a network issue causing problems along the way.  Until that's sorted out there's no point making any other changes.

Notice it was the second part of my post, after asking for some more information wink.gif

Not mandatory BY ANY means to get Freenas, it would just save him a windows 7 liscense and be something that was designed exactly for his needs biggrin.gif


Now on to the actual problem, Getting 5.8Mbytes/s avg transfer speeds sounds ALOT like something along the line is running @ 100Mbits/s (=12MBytes/s)

Things to check (in order):
Does your Network card on the Athlon fileserver support 1000Mb/s? (or is it 100Mb/s)
Does your switch/router in between the 2 support 1000Mb/s?
is the Cabling Cat5(e)/Cat6(e)
Does your main server support 1000Mb/s?
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