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I for one have never owned either, Always owned Antec or OCZ power supplies. My friends all own OCZ power supplies. I was looking at Cougar recently. They're new to newegg, i dont know how new to the actual computer scene they are, but they get solid reviews from people on newegg, and are priced reasonably. Personally, I always found both those companies alot more expensive then OCZ or Antec. Now I may not be "hardcore" enough to buy them, but I sometimes think that people get so overworked on having a good PSU, that they buy one that it way overkill for what they need.

The next PSU I buy, will probably be either another OCZ, or I'll give cougar a try.
post #112 of 320
So true man! Ironically a week ago I was either going to get the SeaSonic X650 but was looking at the Thortech Thunderbolt 650 and remembered that they make really quality units, and got it cause I wanted to support the underdog smile.gif and there are still a ton of posts on here where somewhere asks a question about what PSU they should get and someone says "just get a 750W Corsair" even when they only need ~550W -.-
FSP makes awesome power supplies in general, they just tend to be pretty expensive frown.gif
Edited by Pentium-David - 12/2/11 at 12:49pm
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Originally Posted by duox View Post

when other psu's come in velvet bags i will switch

Phew, I almost killed off the velvet bag, lucky our product management didn't take my advise!
Thank you all for the support and confidence in our products! thumb.gif
post #114 of 320
You elaborated very well on how Corporate Economics *COUGH GREED COUGH* works -- Great post.

That said, I think many people default to Corsair/SeaSonic because they are proven to work, many people don't change from hardware they have used, and proven with it. If they buy a Seasonic/Corsair PSU and it works well for them for the year(s) they have the PC. Most people won't switch to another brand... unless the market has drastically changed that much.

In this case, I'm sure some older PSU's from say, 4-5-7 years aren't bought as often and is now replaced with a Corsair/Seasonic PSU. I'm also sure that in 4-5-7 years, this will change again, as you just stated that other manufacturers are replacing solid products.

I wouldn't worry -- Things will turn around as always (unless you're AMD vs Intel thumb.gif)
     
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Very well put, Phaedrus. I bought a 650W OCZ ZT for my new build, because a) it will be more than enough and b) it's a solid reliable unit. If I had started a thread for advice, of course the majority of people would have immediately said Corsair or Seasonic. And for any new people looking for advice, they would blindly get one too because an overwhelming number of people would be blindly recommending them.
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That is what I have been doing this entire time. I work in retail, but I only give people power supplies I trust. If I find that we sell a 500W enermax for a nice price, You bet i will sell it. Plus Thermaltake (if you get a decent RU) are great power supplies.
 
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Superflower 80+ golds are the best value in high end power supplies. Why get 700 watt bronze for 125 when you can get a 700 watt gold of same build quality for same price.
They are are built to last too. I managed to drop one 7 feet onto concrete, leaving a massive dent. The unit has worked fine for over a year without a single issue.

This I totally agree with. Why spend the money on 700W Bronze when you can get the same thing in Gold rated with better quality. Makes sense to me.
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To Phaedrus2129: how large was the population size of your surveys and what is its scope? Did you interview just a few forum communities? For example, if you polled various audiophile forums asking what headphones are best, very few will respond with the Beats by Dr. Dre. Based on this information, you go to conclude that the Beats are struggling out in the market. However, you walk about and realize that everyone is wearing the beats. When you post the information you gather to the audience you gather it from, of course it is going to resonate.

There is no problem that the premium market is dominated by a few manufacturers as that's not the only channel affecting a company's bottom line - especially in the case of a company as diverse as Seasonic. The enthusiast market has always been, and always will be a small fraction of these OEM's final sales. Many of the features and extra voltage regulation-this and tighter waveform-that are unnecessary to begin with, so a lack of innovation in the long run within this respect won't really matter.
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You elaborated very well on how Corporate Economics *COUGH GREED COUGH* works -- Great post.
That said, I think many people default to Corsair/SeaSonic because they are proven to work, many people don't change from hardware they have used, and proven with it. If they buy a Seasonic/Corsair PSU and it works well for them for the year(s) they have the PC. Most people won't switch to another brand... unless the market has drastically changed that much.
In this case, I'm sure some older PSU's from say, 4-5-7 years aren't bought as often and is now replaced with a Corsair/Seasonic PSU. I'm also sure that in 4-5-7 years, this will change again, as you just stated that other manufacturers are replacing solid products.
I wouldn't worry -- Things will turn around as always (unless you're AMD vs Intel thumb.gif)

Oh come on, explain to me how this is corporate greed? These companies are offering a good product and they have marketed them well. How does that translate to greed? If you call having a large market share and making a profit greed thats ludicrous.
post #120 of 320
I actually avoid Corsair PSUs because of their "cult" status among a lot of PC builders.

For the last few builds I've made for friends, I go for XFX and Antec PSUs. Granted, those PSUs are based on the S12II from Seasonic but that just means they're a quality product.

I'll admit that I was thinking of getting an M12II PSU for my next personal build because I wanted a good modular PSU and I don't know what other modular 500W - 550W PSUs are available. Is the OCZ ZT series any good? I'm also waiting for a modular HCG line of PSUs from Antec.

I'd buy a Superflower/Kingwin PSU in a heartbeat though if any retailers in Canada started stocking PSUs from either of those companies. NCIX doesn't have a single Kingwin PSU listed in their inventory. mad.gif
Edited by Vowels - 12/2/11 at 4:46pm
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