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I have had Enermax in past only lasted a few months then went bad, and same with a Thermaltake PSU that was built in an old case went bad after about 6months. I am not a Corsair Fanboy but when it comes to a purchase for my self that needs to be solid and work "as is" then I will always grab a corsair. The other problem with the other companies that you listed have you tried to get support from them? Thermaltake was the worst ever at getting any form of support. I gave up after a few months of waiting on Email correspondence.

True Story: Mr corsair 1000hx was in my system and I had been having stability issues, after RMAing my Asus motherboard and then receiving it back telling me that the motherboard had passed ASUS QC and everything should be fine. Well after plugging it back in still had stability problems, so i figured might be the power supply. I go to Corsair rma page with in 2 weeks I receive a brandnew 1000HX never been opened still factory sealed. And guess what turns out the motherboard was still bad lol, so ditched my ASUS rig and now its running in the rig below after buying the unit over 4 years ago.


I <3 CORSAIR!
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the superflower (kingwin) also had better rise time/transient scores AND is 30 bucks cheaper last time i checked (cmaris claims it was even cheaper before, but went back up.) the vreg results are pretty similar according to jonny's review, whereas the superflower has half the ripple of the seasonic (30 v 60.) finally, the superflower posted much better efficiency at all load levels.
seems like a pretty clear victory to me

Whether it's better honestly is beside the point. Both are excellent no doubt. My point is just that I have had such a good experience with these products why would I go elsewhere.

Whether or not they make the absolute best of the best or just arguabally the best is kind of my point. Anyhow I'm not trying to be hostile I hope your not taking it that way. I'm just really happy that I found a brand I can stick in my PC and have absolutely no worries. When I had the modstream ghetto rigged to run my 5850s in crossfire using molex adapters I was scared just turning it on.

Also as far as price goes if I have to pay a 10-20 dollar premium for that peace of mind I'm okay with it. However if you keep your eyes open ou can almost always find these types of things discounted or for sale somewhere.
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you dont need to worry about peace of mind when it comes to super flower. everytime they bring out a new model lately its been excellent. theyve made:

-rosewill capstones/lightnings
-nzxt hale90s
-kingwin lazer golds / lazer platinums
-some sentey psus (i forget tongue.gif)
-their own units (golden greens, golden kings, platinum fanless etc)

i understand youve found comfort with one power supply, but i think its better to buy whichever power supply is the best for you rather than going with a brand, because its the individual power supply that powers your system, not the brand name. you say youve had a good experience with seasonic, why would you go elsewhere. i said because there are other better options sometimes - like the platinum 1000w units we were discussing before. it just seems a bit short-sighted to use power supplies made by 3 companies (well it was more like 2 anyway) and then decide that you are going to stick with them regardless of how well other companies perform. its the same as getting a crappy antec psu and moving to a solid thermaltake one, and declaring 'thermaltake for life, im never going to try anything else'
post #234 of 320
Good to see others have adopted Silverstones PSU's.

It's one of the few PSU's that's 100% modular

And regardless who actually even manufactures the thing,
it's been operating flawlessly and doing what it's supposed to.
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While I understand the concerns with monopolization, I feel that from our side of things we're constantly hustling to have the best units in the market. Our high-end parts are among the best (if not the best) units available from ANY manufacturer.

The reason people buy Corsair parts is because we've worked our butts off to source and build good parts, and we stand behind them.

Some of our competitors have been unwilling or unable to do that.

I understand that people root for the underdog - but we started as the underdog, and built it from zero. I've been here the entire time, making sure our SATA connectors aren't too far apart, that our fans have long MTBF ratings, that our engineers understand the importance of putting the sleeving as close to the connectors as possible, that +12V rail has better than the ATX spec, that we know which competitors are right to look at for which products, that when we look at changing a platform for costs or performance or logistics reasons, we spec out better than our last-gen parts, and that the little stuff like the thing looking good in a case when it's installed is covered.

Every power supply we've ever released, I've been in the meeting room from day 1, spec'ing it out. And every post on Overclock.net I've read for the past few years, or on other forums for the 7.5 years or so I've been at Corsair, I've tried to answer in the best way possible.

These aren't my products - they're yours. You guys asked for black cables, for large fans, for fully modular, for better warranties, tighter regulation, ripple, and noise, fanless at low-loads, higher efficiency - and we delivered.

So root for the underdog - I completely understand. But keep in mind it's not like we're some giant faceless corporation with guys in expensive suits sit around lighting cigars with $100 bills. We're just a bunch of guys reading forums, building gaming rigs, and overclocking lab computers. And there's no "mom and pop" PSU guy we're putting out of business out there. The underdogs in this case are multi-million dollar corporations, just like we are.

If you think they're doing a better job than we are, by all means, buy their product. That's how this works. You should buy the best thing you can get for your money. That's what I do. That's what anybody should do.

And if, at some point, you feel that Corsair lied to you or screwed you over, then PM me and I'll make it right however I can.

But keep in mind that THIS is why Corsair is #1. Not because we're some machiavellian corporation bent on manipulating the market. Because we work harder and smarter than a lot of the other guys. And because we're listening when you say you want X, Y or Z.

Sorry if I went off on a rant, but I get pretty passionate about things. Phaedrus, you know that, we talked for an hour at CES. (well, I talked, he mostly just politely listened and challenged me when necessary)

No disrespect meant to anybody. Just some thoughts.
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As a heads up to OP.

Some guy on guru3d is impersonating Phaedrus2129..
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. Just some thoughts.


Hey George....


Thanks for taking your personal time to speak your mind, and also maintain a level
of professionalism by not skewing your product over others.


Question: Whats the logistical feasibility of manufacturing your product on the West Coast
of the U.S. ?? In this case.....just referring to PSU's.

Has there ever been talks or considerations for a EU facility ?
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why would they pull out of china and manufacture in the US?
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As a heads up to OP.
Some guy on guru3d is impersonating Phaedrus2129..

Link? I think I have an account there, but I haven't logged in in a month or two.
EDIT: Nevermind, found it. Heh, easy way to spot a fake in the future: I use capitalization correctly and know what a style guide is... tongue.gif







CES did make an impression on me George. I have a broader perspective on the industry now. I let this thread slowly die, but I guess it was necroed.
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Hey George....
Thanks for taking your personal time to speak your mind, and also maintain a level
of professionalism by not skewing your product over others.
Question: Whats the logistical feasibility of manufacturing your product on the West Coast
of the U.S. ?? In this case.....just referring to PSU's.
Has there ever been talks or considerations for a EU facility ?

Would you pay $150 for a GS700 because it was manufactured in, say, Arizona instead of China?

Some people would, but unfortunately not enough.

The benefit of using Chinese contract manufacturing is quickness of response as well - if we need to make a capacitor change, there's a dozen companies in Shenzhen or Dongguan that have them in stock. So we can make the call that morning, and by that afternoon we can have the new capacitors and the lines are back up and running. If we have a problem stamping out sheet metal and a tool breaks, there's four more presses at the factory upstairs or down the block, and we're down for a few hours instead of a few days, weeks, or even months.

From a business perspective, it's not really possible to be competitive if you don't manufacture in China anymore, unless you only sell high-cost, high-margin stuff that's also super-expensive to ship. Like cars, for example. But everything from toothpicks to TVs can be made cheaper there.

As for the EU, there's all kinds of concerns there, but a lot of time there are business and cost reasons not to build a huge factory somewhere like Holland or France or Romania or whatever. Similar to the US reasons, but also sometimes some infrastructure and governmental concerns.
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