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post #241 of 320
1/27/12 at 10:34am
I think the reason people go with Corsair over some others is because they know the brand name makes good products and they also have products for every wattage and price range.
I do also believe people should look at other brands as well. I know some people say same about Seasonic which also makes some of Corsairs power supplies as well, but a X-750 for 119 on Newegg (which i ordered) is a hard deal to pass up.

Also, CorsairGeorge thanks for all your posts, appreciate you taking time to talk to us on here always helpful. smile.gif
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1/27/12 at 10:37am
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Would you pay $150 for a GS700 because it was manufactured in, say, Arizona instead of China?
Some people would, but unfortunately not enough.

The benefit of using Chinese contract manufacturing is quickness of response as well - if we need to make a capacitor change, there's a dozen companies in Shenzhen or Dongguan that have them in stock. So we can make the call that morning, and by that afternoon we can have the new capacitors and the lines are back up and running. If we have a problem stamping out sheet metal and a tool breaks, there's four more presses at the factory upstairs or down the block, and we're down for a few hours instead of a few days, weeks, or even months.

From a business perspective, it's not really possible to be competitive if you don't manufacture in China anymore, unless you only sell high-cost, high-margin stuff that's also super-expensive to ship. Like cars, for example. But everything from toothpicks to TVs can be made cheaper there.

As for the EU, there's all kinds of concerns there, but a lot of time there are business and cost reasons not to build a huge factory somewhere like Holland or France or Romania or whatever. Similar to the US reasons, but also sometimes some infrastructure and governmental concerns.


^^^^ Lot's of opinion, not so much facts.

Many companies mfg. in the U.S. and are "competitive" with Chinese products. The problem is most CEOs are more interested in their annual bonus than they are in the U.S. economy and consumers - until the U.S. economy is in a full blown depression - Again. As long as a CEO can personally benefit by out sourcing U.S. jobs for personal gain - they will.

This is the definition of financial greed. Look it up.

Unscrupulous CEOs will do whatever is best for them, not necessarily their company or the U.S. Then when all else fails they'll take their Platinum Parachute and leave for the next CEO position and pull the same crap over again.
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post #243 of 320
1/27/12 at 11:27am
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Would you pay $150 for a GS700 because it was manufactured in, say, Arizona instead of China?
Some people would, but unfortunately not enough.
The benefit of using Chinese contract manufacturing is quickness of response as well - if we need to make a capacitor change, there's a dozen companies in Shenzhen or Dongguan that have them in stock. So we can make the call that morning, and by that afternoon we can have the new capacitors and the lines are back up and running. If we have a problem stamping out sheet metal and a tool breaks, there's four more presses at the factory upstairs or down the block, and we're down for a few hours instead of a few days, weeks, or even months.
From a business perspective, it's not really possible to be competitive if you don't manufacture in China anymore, unless you only sell high-cost, high-margin stuff that's also super-expensive to ship. Like cars, for example. But everything from toothpicks to TVs can be made cheaper there.
As for the EU, there's all kinds of concerns there, but a lot of time there are business and cost reasons not to build a huge factory somewhere like Holland or France or Romania or whatever. Similar to the US reasons, but also sometimes some infrastructure and governmental concerns.

I hope you don't take this the wrong way and my Seasonic love is probabally wearing a bit thin on people at this point but Corsair does imo owe a lot of it's PSU success to Seasonic.

I do love your guy's products though (especially your RAM!)
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post #244 of 320
1/27/12 at 11:45am
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It does help a PSU company when their assembly factory, the metal stamping factory, the screw factory, the wire factory, the capacitor factory, the inductor factory, the transformer factory, the semiconductor factory, the PCB plant, the power switch factory, the fan grille factory, the LED factory, and the corporate headquarters are all within 6 hours by car or boat, many within 1 hour or even the same city block. And everything is up and running 140+ hours a week and there's an engineering team on hand to answer your requests for changes almost 24/7 and the changes can be implemented on the factory line inside of 12 hours.


The supply chains are in China, the engineering talent is in China, the sheer number of people needed to build these things are in China... Frankly I don't think many modern hi-tech devices could be made anywhere but China.
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post #245 of 320
1/27/12 at 11:48am
Agree as well. I really like Corsair Products have ram and a H60 was thinking about getting their Force GT SSD as well. Everyone knows Corsair has good products thats not the debate just willingness to try other brands, and not just instantly go for one kind.
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1/27/12 at 11:50am
Aren't the only 2 PSU manufacturers worth talking about Seasonic and Silverstone? Don't they make like 95% of the enthusiast PSUs? Including Corsairs? I read your post but I didn't see much about Silverstone.

I don't to be Naive, but this sounds like "Don't buy AMD or Nvidia, if you buy them there will be no competition"

The biggest concern should be, most everything is made in China. China could impose a trade sanction us.
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1/27/12 at 12:05pm
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Aren't the only 2 PSU manufacturers worth talking about Seasonic and Silverstone? Don't they make like 95% of the enthusiast PSUs? Including Corsairs? I read your post but I didn't see much about Silverstone.
I don't to be Naive, but this sounds like "Don't buy AMD or Nvidia, if you buy them there will be no competition"
The biggest concern should be, most everything is made in China. China could impose a trade sanction us.

Are you serious or not?


Acbel Polytech
Andyson
ATNG
Channel Well
Delta Electronics
Enermax
Enhance
FSP Group
Great Wall
Huntkey
SeaSonic
Seventeam
Sirfa/Sirtec
Solytech
SuperFlower
Zippy/Emacs


And that's just off the top of my head. Heck, Delta is the largest power supply manufacturer in the world, and FSP, Enhance, and Acbel aren't far behind.
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post #248 of 320
1/27/12 at 12:10pm
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The biggest concern should be, most everything is made in China. China could impose a trade sanction us.

That would be an extremely stupid move on their part. They are as dependent on the US as the US is dependent on them.
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1/27/12 at 12:14pm
I got the corsair AX750, but tbh this is my first major high end build and I wanted something I could trust completely with over £1000 worth of gear. I knew they were good, and that's what mattered to me, even if I did pay £20 more for the safety.
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1/27/12 at 2:19pm
Sorry to bother you with this but, there is a new account created, Phaedrus2401, on Guru3D. Can you confirm that is you? Seems to be some question.
Oh and Flextronics...heh...
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