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I'm a fan of Seasonic and Corsair yes. I am also a fan of Antec and Delta, and I am becoming increasingly fond of SuperFlower built PSUs like Kingwin. There are PLENTY of high quality PSUs that aren't made by Seasonic.

My opinion is that I should ideally buy the PSU that will cost least over the expected life of the computer I'm putting it into. Included in this cost is the cost of the PSU, the value of my time for researching parts and building the PC, the additional downtime and expense if it's a ****ty PSU that fries other parts, and the cost of electricity for the typical use of the machine I put it into.

The super reliable brands cut down a lot on the time required to research components and replace failed components, for many people the time it takes to learn how to find and interpret good reviews would be better spent gaming or working. Which leaves the few of us that are interested in the subject or who really want the "best" to research and spread word about the best deals. This is a problem because while the brands with the best reputation are rewarded, the mediocre brands have to work MUCH harder to become a top tier name, even if they start producing top quality parts.

I personally don't have a problem buying a no-name power supply as long as I see a competent review and it's a good part, one of the best places I've found to look for those reviews is here: http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page541.htm
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thumb.gifSuperb article. An excellent read thumb.gif
Having lived the past 59 years in north-east ohio [auto mfgs] --- have seen 1st hand the absolute loss
of mental capacities to make proper logistical decisions. Allowing a supplier six months to ramp up
a 1/2" change to a rear view mirror.......downright ignorant. It's a disgrace this country's pizzed away
the potential for so much better. Guess we deserve opening up those "made in China" boxes.

We got too big headed, arrogant and lazy. This should serve as a wake up call to us Americans; it's hard to stay on top forever and that we must continue to be creative, be willing to make changes, quickly and keep things fresh - kind off what the OP is suggesting.
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Just throwing my 2 cents in, would be really amazing if NZXT made a budget PSU, because I love their products...but can't shell out $150+ for one.
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Originally Posted by Silvos00 View Post

Just throwing my 2 cents in, would be really amazing if NZXT made a budget PSU, because I love their products...but can't shell out $150+ for one.

If by "made" you mean "release" or "sell" (it's a stretch to say they make any power supply), then it kind of already exists: the Hale82 N (non-modular). It pretty much sucks, by the way, unlike the Hale82 and Hale90.
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While agree the certification it's self is usually irrelevant, having a more efficient PSU is not, so long as you calculate how long it will take you to recover investment, and that time is less than the expected useful life of the build.

Is it going to save you money on a 300w gaming rig you use a couple nights a week? Not unless your electricity is ridiculously expensive, a VP-450 or cx-430 would be a better buy here.

Is it going to save you money on a 500w rig that runs 24/7 in an air conditioned room? Almost certainly, but again, it depends on electricity costs.


There is a situation where the 80plus certification is useful: on very cheap power supplies that have not been professionally reviewed(especially when buying local). If you need a cheapo PSU for a 100w machine, if it's been 80plus certified at least it's been load tested to some extent, and it's pretty easy to check for fake certifications. http://www.plugloadsolutions.com/80PlusPowerSupplies.aspx
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While agree the certification it's self is usually irrelevant, having a more efficient PSU is not, so long as you calculate how long it will take you to recover investment, and that time is less than the expected useful life of the build.
Is it going to save you money on a 300w gaming rig you use a couple nights a week? Not unless your electricity is ridiculously expensive, a VP-450 or cx-430 would be a better buy here.
Is it going to save you money on a 500w rig that runs 24/7 in an air conditioned room? Almost certainly, but again, it depends on electricity costs.
There is a situation where the 80plus certification is useful: on very cheap power supplies that have not been professionally reviewed(especially when buying local). If you need a cheapo PSU for a 100w machine, if it's been 80plus certified at least it's been load tested to some extent, and it's pretty easy to check for fake certifications. http://www.plugloadsolutions.com/80PlusPowerSupplies.aspx
Not necessarily, there are some untrustworthy manufacturers who send in different units to be tested for 80+ just so they could put the sticker on a different unit that they know won't meet the requirements just for the marketing.

Edit: Plus, as the article states, unless you're running your computer at load 24/7 such as with Folding then it's pretty pointless to get a PSU just because it has a higher efficiency rating because you won't save nearly enough per year to justify the higher cost with normal use.
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Do I count as evil if I own a Seasonic x750? Only reason I bought it is because a friend sold it to me for like $70 and I didn't think I would find a much better deal than that.
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Do I count as evil if I own a Seasonic x750? Only reason I bought it is because a friend sold it to me for like $70 and I didn't think I would find a much better deal than that.
No you don't, it's an excellent unit and at 70$ a brilliant deal. smile.gif

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