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post #291 of 320
7/11/12 at 2:03pm
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If by "made" you mean "release" or "sell" (it's a stretch to say they make any power supply), then it kind of already exists: the Hale82 N (non-modular). It pretty much sucks, by the way, unlike the Hale82 and Hale90.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with the HALE82N, it's got features the HALE82 hasn't but lacks modularity to drive down costs. Really solid little units.
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7/11/12 at 2:21pm
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with the HALE82N, it's got features the HALE82 hasn't but lacks modularity to drive down costs. Really solid little units.
It's more than just modularity, the N version has a different design made by FSP with poor ripple/noise suppression and voltage regulation. The HALE82 is made by seasonic, and the HALE90 is made by superflower.
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7/11/12 at 4:12pm
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It's more than just modularity, the N version has a different design made by FSP with poor ripple/noise suppression and voltage regulation. The HALE82 is made by seasonic, and the HALE90 is made by superflower.

Whilst the design and manufacturer is different, it's also meant as an entry-level unit. From all tests I've seen I haven't seen a single rail go over 1.1% deviation, which for around the $50 mark for the 550w is much better than many of the 500W PSU's on the entry-level market. It's not a PSU I'd opt to buy over some of the more efficient ones, but if I was looking to cut back on costs it'd definitely be an option.
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7/11/12 at 4:23pm
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Whilst the design and manufacturer is different, it's also meant as an entry-level unit. From all tests I've seen I haven't seen a single rail go over 1.1% ripple, which for around the $50 mark for the 550w is much better than many of the 500W PSU's on the entry-level market. It's not a PSU I'd opt to buy over some of the more efficient ones, but if I was looking to cut back on costs it'd definitely be an option.

Which reviews are you talking about? I don't know of any but the hardwaresecrets one for the 650W and the hardwareheaven one for the 750W. In both, there seem to be issues with the minor rails, in a big way. Granted, they may be okay at a lower temperature or lower load, but close to 50C intake and 50-75W combined on +3.3V and +5V, they were really misbehaving for hardwaresecrets.

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/NZXT-HALE82-N-650-W-Power-Supply-Review/1565/7
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1512/pg5/nzxt-hale82-n-series-750w-power-supply-testing-results.html

By the way, over 1% ripple is over the spec for +12V (120 mV) and +5V (50 mV). Do you mean ripple or voltage regulation (well, deviation of mean value)?
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7/11/12 at 5:07pm
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Whilst the design and manufacturer is different, it's also meant as an entry-level unit. From all tests I've seen I haven't seen a single rail go over 1.1% ripple, which for around the $50 mark for the 550w is much better than many of the 500W PSU's on the entry-level market. It's not a PSU I'd opt to buy over some of the more efficient ones, but if I was looking to cut back on costs it'd definitely be an option.

Considering you can get a BP-500(which has none of the votage stability problems of the HALE82N) for $45, it's still a bad deal. While there are budget PSUs that can deliver their rated wattage within atx spec, they are few and far between. It's a very bad idea to buy a PSU without a very trustworthy brand(seasonic/antec/corsair), or a thorough review(as exhaustive as hardwaresecrets or jonnyguru).
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7/11/12 at 5:11pm
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Which reviews are you talking about? I don't know of any but the hardwaresecrets one for the 650W and the hardwareheaven one for the 750W. In both, there seem to be issues with the minor rails, in a big way. Granted, they may be okay at a lower temperature or lower load, but close to 50C intake and 50-75W combined on +3.3V and +5V, they were really misbehaving for hardwaresecrets.
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/NZXT-HALE82-N-650-W-Power-Supply-Review/1565/7
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1512/pg5/nzxt-hale82-n-series-750w-power-supply-testing-results.html
By the way, over 1% ripple is over the spec for +12V (120 mV) and +5V (50 mV). Do you mean ripple or voltage regulation (well, deviation of mean value)?

Meant deviation, corrected.
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7/12/12 at 8:41am
I bought a Kingwin PSU this time
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7/12/12 at 8:52am
Excellent read. Properly structured.

I have an XFX 1000W Pro and an AX850 right now. Don't know which to keep. 1KW is overkill but I love the build quality. Would try Enermax for sure.
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7/12/12 at 9:20am
I used to own a CM RealPower M520w for years and years until it finally crapped out trying to run a GTX560 Ti + Deneb x4 @ 3.9.

I went in search of a new PSU ignoring the big brands and reading reviews and such.

I came out in the end with 2 units that where absolute winners in every aspect.

The XFX XXX 650W and the A-Data HM-650.

Got the XFX for the sole reason that it was in stock and the A-Data wasn't at the time.

I support lesser known brands in the PSU market such as SuperFlower, A-Data (seasonic units), Lepa (Enermax units), NZXT and ofc XFX.
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7/25/12 at 6:00am
Any thoughts about FSP and Hipro ?
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