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So non-english reviews I can't read without translating...

How about some facts? Every review I found, including the one I linked, says it comes close, but no cigar. Mainly people love it for it's more stylish appearance.
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The Noctua D14 is still the king but the cooler I'm using, the Venemous-X RT has thermal performance that is almost as good but is noticeably quieter. The H100 is very loud. When properly configured the Silver Arrow is every bit as good as the Noctua and the SA has a PWM fan! EDIT: Although apparently at extremely high clocks, the Noctua still cools well and the Silver Arrow ceases to cool as well.
I'm like you; I could care less about color and I prefer performance.
However, I went with the Venemous over the Noctua due to its near-silent nature even at full load. With two fans, the Venemous-X RT will equal the stock Noctua configuration (which has two sinks and two fans.)


Very good to know!
I was curious what fans you were using on your Venomous-X RT?

I've been bouncing around with coolers on my sig rig the past few weeks, including the D14, and H80 though I suppose since I cant see my innards on the case very well then it wont matter what colour fans redface.gif

I'll have to see about trying out the Venomous-X RT.thumb.gif or just save the hassle & stick with the D14, and add another fan on the back; like the one pictured above.

Off topic now - does anyone know where to get fan clips for the third fan placement on the D14? or should I just be ghetto and just zip tie the sucker on?
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I got my h100 for $80. thumb.gif
 
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So non-english reviews I can't read without translating...
How about some facts? Every review I found, including the one I linked, says it comes close, but no cigar. Mainly people love it for it's more stylish appearance.

Actually, from what I have seen, it is the DH-D14 that comes close to the SA, but can't seem to overtake it. That's why I ended up getting the SA. And because it gets more of a benefit from higher speed fans.

I don't know what the tier ranking of the dual towers is, but I am pretty sure D14 and K2 are below SA.
 
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http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cases_cooling/thermalright_silver_arrow_vs_noctua_nh-d14/3
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What a contest this was between two closely matched Heavyweight contenders. The result was very close to the most recent Heavyweight contest we've seen, although this time the Challenger didn't just stand there like an idiot and fall over in the third, rather the Silver Arrow matched the NH-D14 jab for jab, cross for cross, until the third round when the power of the Champion was just enough to put the Challenger down.

Until then we even had the Thermalright Silver Arrow ahead on points and if this was a two-round affair it would be the blue corner having their hand raised. However in the professional world we don't have short contests. So why doesn't the challenger get the belt this time?

The main points are that the Thermalright Silver Arrow just about has the beating of the Noctua NH-D14 at 1.25v and 1.35v, beating it by 0.7°C and 0.8°C respectively. Once the voltage is increased it proves incapable of shifting the heat away effectively with the heatsink becoming overwhelmed.

Away from the temperatures the mounting system isn't the most user-friendly that we've seen. Although if you're the "install once and never again" type and you own a roomy case then this will prove less of an issue as it does to us with our test setup and requirements.

The fan retainers are the same 'straightened paper-clip' style that Thermalright have been using since seemingly the dawn of time. They're fiddly, annoying and worst of all they seem cheap. For a cooler costing above £50 the last thing we want is any part of it seeming cheap and fiddly.

All in all it's a pretty capable cooler. There are clearance issues if you've got anything other than vanilla DIMMs, or a case that isn't the widest, but it does keep the processor cool and quiet under reasonable conditions. It's fairly attractive and reasonably priced.
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the graphs should be self explenatory?


http://www.eteknix.com/reviews/cooling/phanteks-ph-tc14pe-dual-tower-cpu-cooler-review/7/
1.2K > Silver Arrow
4.3K > D14

http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/phanteks_ph_tc14pe_cpu_cooler_review,15.html
0.5K > D14
0.75K > SA


http://www.madshrimps.be/articles/article/1000209/Phanteks-PH-TC14PE-CPU-Cooler-Review/6#axzz1X1jZyR6M
0.5K > D14

http://www.technic3d.com/review/kuehlungen/1289-phanteks-ph-tc14pe-cpu-kuehler-im-test/1.htm
http://www.technic3d.com/review/kuehlungen/1173-thermalright-silver-arrow-cpu-kuehler-im-test/6.htm
1.3K < SA

http://www.dexgo.com/index.php?site=artikel/view.php&id=617&rubrik=Hardware&seite=5
0.3K < SA
1.1K > D14


http://www.rwlabs.com/article.php?cat=&id=505&pagenumber=6
0.6K > SA
1.3K > D14


http://metku.net/index.html?path=reviews/phanteks-ph-tc14pe/index_eng4
2.5K > D14

http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/gehaeuse-und-kuehlung/2011/test-phanteks-ph-tc14pe-cpu-kuehler/7/#abschnitt_vergleich_mit_serienbelueftung
0.5K > D14

http://www.hardwaremax.net/reviews/kuehler/313-test-phanteks-ph-tc14pe-high-end-twintower.html?start=6
1.1K > SA
1.2K > D14




http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coolers/display/phanteks-ph-tc14pe_5.html

http://www.overclocking-pc.fr/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=142%3Aphanteks-ph-tc14pe&catid=35%3Atests&Itemid=59&limitstart=3

http://www.centrale3d.com/Phanteks-le-summum-du-Dual-Tower.html?artpage=5-6

http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/phanteks_ph_tc14pe_cpu_cooler_review,13.html

The Phanteks is better than the D14 in every single review, and i honestly couldnt find one where the d14 was actually better...

And dont get me wrong. I'm not saying that the d14 is a bad cooler all of a sudden and i donct actually care about wich coolers people buy. but you asked the question, so you got an answer wink.gif
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Yeah, it is not the king anymore. At least 2 coolers have surpassed it. Noctua is releasing something new soon, so maybe they'll take it back.
 
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http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cases_cooling/phanteks_ph-tc14pe_review/1

To let you know, your first link is broken, and I already posted this review.

Phantek is sexy, no doubt, and a great cooler, only a little louder, and 2-3c hotter, but alot sexier.

However it's also like 25$ more.

What two? Not the Silver Arrow or Phantek as far as I could tell or read, and we're talking air coolers. Zalmans latest offering also seems to be abit of a joke. tongue.gif
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I'd defer to Elohim, in my limited browsing on this site, he's pretty much the best read with facts regarding the D-14 and various other twin tower coolers.

TinyTimLogan, while verbose, isnt exactly consistent in his testing, and frankly the lack of curiosity on his part regarding the alleged "failure" is galling as his is the only review to have encountered such issues. If anything, he should have attempted to identify whether the issue was caused by error on his part since his results were so far out of the norm.

I have not seen or heard of a single instance of "failure" at similar overclocks to what a d-14 can handle here on overclock.net.

A 30 min video and enthusiasm results in the perception of credibility in his viewers, whether deserved is debatable.
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http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cases_cooling/phanteks_ph-tc14pe_review/1
To let you know, your first link is broken, and I already posted this review.
Phantek is sexy, no doubt, and a great cooler, only a little louder, and 2-3c hotter, but alot sexier.
However it's also like 25$ more.
What two? Not the Silver Arrow or Phantek as far as I could tell or read, and we're talking air coolers. Zalmans latest offering also seems to be abit of a joke. tongue.gif

Considering the variance between the "best" is a matter of <5c, perhaps the deciding factor would be other concerns like, aesthetics, aftersales support, compatibility......etc

FWIW, as much as i like the SA, it's likely i'll switch to the new noctua coolers when they arrive, simply because the noctua finish is less susceptible to oxidation.
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