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I have seen some farms in my time, imagine 200 tesla crunching away... Put that in your home and can you imagine the power bill ? thumb.gif

Ain't them Tesla cards using CUDA instead of OpenGL? I think for actual outputs we needs CPU processing power, less GPU rendering... as my home projects appear to flood the CPU workload hella lot more than the GPU, they're practically ideal, most of the time - However they're great in games, just need a third card or have smaller panels.
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Alright guys a little update with pictures of the goodies (thanks Frank for helping me out getting all that stuff wink.gif )

First the crown jewel, the mighty i7-3960x

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And the SSD. I went with the OCZ vertex 3 240GB after deliberation and discussion with Frank thumb.gif

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A whole bunch of bitspower fittings biggrin.gif Jeez, what a mess lol

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The PSU, platimax 1500W, the motherboard, koolance reservoir, Lamptron fan controller and some fans on the left

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The memory 16GB Gskill 1866Mhz, EK blocks, the 2 MCP655 pumps, 3 EK back plates. The envelope is from Nils with the sleeving in it thumb.gif

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Larger view of the hardware, you can see the 3 360 rads on the right and 26 fans wheee.gif

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And a last one taken from the other side. The bag on the right is filled with modding bits and pieces.

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Only the case and the order from aquacomputer are missing. The case is already in China but has been stuck in customs for a couple of days. Jim is helping me unlock the situation. And the order from aquaPC has been shipped with DHL yesterday.

So, I'll post again when I'm starting the build smile.gif
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Alright guys a little update with pictures of the goodies (thanks Frank for helping me out getting all that stuff wink.gif )
First the crown jewel, the mighty i7-3960x
448
And the SSD. I went with the OCZ vertex 3 240GB after deliberation and discussion with Frank thumb.gif
448
A whole bunch of bitspower fittings biggrin.gif Jeez, what a mess lol
448
The PSU, platimax 1500W, the motherboard, koolance reservoir, Lamptron fan controller and some fans on the left
448
The memory 16GB Gskill 1866Mhz, EK blocks, the 2 MCP655 pumps, 3 EK back plates. The envelope is from Nils with the sleeving in it thumb.gif
448
Larger view of the hardware, you can see the 3 360 rads on the right and 26 fans wheee.gif
448
And a last one taken from the other side. The bag on the right is filled with modding bits and pieces.
448
Only the case and the order from aquacomputer are missing. The case is already in China but has been stuck in customs for a couple of days. Jim is helping me unlock the situation. And the order from aquaPC has been shipped with DHL yesterday.
So, I'll post again when I'm starting the build smile.gif

Subbed:P Looks awesome:P IM so jelly:PP
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The packing on those filters look exactly like the ones I ordered from Demcifilter..

You going dual loops on the Koolance res? Your case can surely fit it.. or you can go for another Koolance res (2) total and have 2x D5 in each running serial for redundancy... and get 2 more 360 + the Pedestal, you'll be able to run all your 580's with a delta of less than 10c using low RPM fans/High FPI rads when folding... You know you want to..
biggrin.gif My Evil Grin !!!

also I highly recommend these for the Koolance reservoir, it'll make working on your rig much much simpler..
Koolance QDC (High Flow) No-Spill Shutoff, Male Threaded G 1/4
Koolance QDC (High Flow) No-Spill Shutoff, Female [For ID: 13mm (1/2"); OD: 19mm (3/4")]
Those are for 1/2 ID and 3/4OD, not sure if that's the tubing size you went with but just using it as reference...


I picked up a Delta EFB1212SHE DC12v 1.20A and 3x Sunon Maglev MEC0251V1 12v 5.4W today, going to give those a try in my case.. Delta on bottom and the Sunon's in front, all as intake..

The goal is since there is no path blocking the air flow inside, in theory, the noise should be lessened as if they were to point to a radiator.. These need to be controlled obviously and it's the next step toward my Positive Pressure case..
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The packing on those filters look exactly like the ones I ordered from Demcifilter..
You going dual loops on the Koolance res? Your case can surely fit it.. or you can go for another Koolance res (2) total and have 2x D5 in each running serial for redundancy... and get 2 more 360 + the Pedestal, you'll be able to run all your 580's with a delta of less than 10c using low RPM fans/High FPI rads when folding... You know you want to..
biggrin.gif My Evil Grin !!!
also I highly recommend these for the Koolance reservoir, it'll make working on your rig much much simpler..
Koolance QDC (High Flow) No-Spill Shutoff, Male Threaded G 1/4
Koolance QDC (High Flow) No-Spill Shutoff, Female [For ID: 13mm (1/2"); OD: 19mm (3/4")]
Those are for 1/2 ID and 3/4OD, not sure if that's the tubing size you went with but just using it as reference...
I picked up a Delta EFB1212SHE DC12v 1.20A and 3x Sunon Maglev MEC0251V1 12v 5.4W today, going to give those a try in my case.. Delta on bottom and the Sunon's in front, all as intake..
The goal is since there is no path blocking the air flow inside, in theory, the noise should be lessened as if they were to point to a radiator.. These need to be controlled obviously and it's the next step toward my Positive Pressure case..
thumb.gif

Actually I am going with a single loop with the two pumps in serie, I read that it performs better but we'll see. As for the no-spill shutoffs, GREAT IDEA, just ordered biggrin.gif

The pedestal might be ordered later (yeah yeah, i want to lol). Frank you've got to stop making me want more stuff, now I can't get the pedestal out of my mind rolleyes.gif

Dude, I am still very confused with the poweradjusts. I'm getting 3 of those (the ultra version) and plan on connecting 18 fans on them (6/channel). Can i still connect the pumps to the aquaero?
The details of the fans can be found here . I plan of powering the LEDs with the multiswitch though. Could I connect 12 fans to the aquaero (6/channel), 6 fans to a poweradjust and the 2 pumps to the remaining poweradjusts? Would there be enough power?
Edited by yannickhk - 12/22/11 at 8:28pm
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Actually I am going with a single loop with the two pumps in serie, I read that it performs better but we'll see. As for the no-spill shutoffs, GREAT IDEA, just ordered biggrin.gif
The pedestal might be ordered later (yeah yeah, i want to lol). Frank you've got to stop making me want more stuff, now I can't get the pedestal out of my mind rolleyes.gif
Dude, I am still very confused with the poweradjusts. I'm getting 3 of those (the ultra version) and plan on connecting 18 fans on them (6/channel). Can i still connect the pumps to the aquaero?
The details of the fans can be found here . I plan of powering the LEDs with the multiswitch though. Could I connect 12 fans to the aquaero (6/channel), 6 fans to a poweradjust and the 2 pumps to the remaining poweradjusts? Would there be enough power?

In theory, it is possible, I have fans rated at 0.22A, but I found out after buying the Aquaero that they use only half of the manufacturer spec states even when running full speed 12v 100%. Here's the info I asked from Shoggy (he's the AC rep and hangs around here and xtremesystems) and was told..
Quote:
Shoggy wrote:
I don't know the exact temperatures. Somewhere around 85°C it set the power to 100% and somewhere around 95°C it should turn off.

Each channel on the aquaero can take a load of 19,8W @ 12V while the overall power combined can not exceed 60W. The poweradjust 2 can take 25W at 12V. Of course it does not count in for the aquaero since it uses its own power supply and cooling.

Sincerely,
Your Aqua Computer Forum Team

This is my easy to read formula in a nutshell..
Quote:
Aquearo
1-4
19.8W / 1.65A
combined 60w / 5A

Power Adjust 2
5-10
25w / 2.08A

Temperature Threshold: 85c - 95c

A lot of manufacturers lie about their specs, *cough* Cooler *cough*.. and the listed spec vs real use scenario might be higher, only way to tell is test it once you get your Aquaero and PA2..

for me, I have it setup like this..
Quote:
Current Connection: (testing)
FAN CHANNEL 1: pedestal left / Thermochill TA120.3 / 3x 120 Gelid Wing 12 (Manufacturer rated 0.22 amp 12v) - running @ 5.2v 870 rpm
FAN CHANNEL 2: pedestal right / Thermochill TA120.3 / 3x 120 Gelid Wing 12 @ 5.2v 869 rpm
FAN CHANNEL 3: pedestal intake / 1x Gelid Wing 12 @ 5.2v 843rpm
FAN CHANNEL 4: pedestal exhaust / 2x Gelid Wing 14 (Manufacturer rated 0.35 amp 12v) @ 5.2v 731rpm
FAN CHANNEL 5: CPU Loop D5 1 (speed 2)
FAN CHANNEL 6: CPU Loop D5 2 (speed 2)
FAN CHANNEL 7: Caselabs M10 right power supply side / 3x Gelid Wing 12 @ 7.2v 1170rpm
FAN CHANNEL 8: GPU D5 1 (speed 5)
FAN CHANNEL 9: GPU D5 2 (speed 5)
FAN CHANNEL 10: Caselabs M10 top left (Swiftech MCQ QP-360), top right (HWL SR1 360), 6x Gelid Wing 12 @ 5.2v 845rpm

and so far, other then for the 2x D5 pumps running at full speed 5 and 12v 100%, the rest of the channels are barely touching half of the mA required for them to max out..

If I remember right, you are getting the Aquaero Water Block also? if that is the case, I highly suggest you attach all the fans to the AQ5, the VRM gets toasty when set on low voltage, you can crank up the voltage for the D5 to max 12v and control the speed via the D5 itself, since you are doing a single CPU, 3x GPU loop, I think you will be running your pumps both at either 4 or 5.. You won't be tinkering with the speed, if it's noisy, use a shoggy sandwich..

I'm a bit confused.. 6/channel and 18 fans total? If I am reading you correctly, you are assuming there are only 3 channels on the Aquaero.. There are 4 channels on the Aquaero (1 is a shared flow meter which you won't need as you have 3x flow meters, 1 on each PA2 so you already have 4 total flow meter at your disposal), here should be your channel layout..
Quote:
AQ5
FAN CHANNEL 1:
FAN CHANNEL 2:
FAN CHANNEL 3:
FAN CHANNEL 4:
PA2
FAN CHANNEL 5:
FAN CHANNEL 6: D5 1
FAN CHANNEL 7: D5 2

As I said, in theory and in a nutshell... at 0.3A with the Aerocool Shark Red edition, you should have no problem connecting 6 of them to 1 PA2 (1.8A total @ 100%), or 4 per channel of the AQ5 (0.3 x 4 x 4 = 4.8A) which is just about pushing the limits of the AQ5.. remember the AQ5 limitation s are 1.65A per channel while 5A combined..


Also, check out Martin's write up regarding the 452x2 here..

Depend how you are planning to run your loop, the most simplest method is using the "U" connector from one res to the other, then one single loop to all your stuff.. The other is one goes to CPU and other goes to GPU...

421

Above is a serial pump, single loop reference... be sure to check out the configurations options page on the link above..
Edited by frank anderson - 12/22/11 at 10:20pm
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Alright guys a little update with pictures of the goodies (thanks Frank for helping me out getting all that stuff wink.gif )
First the crown jewel, the mighty i7-3960x
448
And the SSD. I went with the OCZ vertex 3 240GB after deliberation and discussion with Frank thumb.gif
448
A whole bunch of bitspower fittings biggrin.gif Jeez, what a mess lol
448
The PSU, platimax 1500W, the motherboard, koolance reservoir, Lamptron fan controller and some fans on the left
448
The memory 16GB Gskill 1866Mhz, EK blocks, the 2 MCP655 pumps, 3 EK back plates. The envelope is from Nils with the sleeving in it thumb.gif
448
Larger view of the hardware, you can see the 3 360 rads on the right and 26 fans wheee.gif
448
And a last one taken from the other side. The bag on the right is filled with modding bits and pieces.
448
Only the case and the order from aquacomputer are missing. The case is already in China but has been stuck in customs for a couple of days. Jim is helping me unlock the situation. And the order from aquaPC has been shipped with DHL yesterday.
So, I'll post again when I'm starting the build smile.gif

Looks absolutely brilliant!
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I love seeing the same pictures 3x on one page.

Any new updates brah?
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when you get to filling and bleeding the rp452, you better have 4-8 hours free time and a hell of a lot of patience. it is extremely frustrating.
i can't tell you how much time i've wasted with this thing... last time i finally "figured it out" ... i guess.

tip the case so the res is the highest point, fill the res up, close the plug. turn pumps on for a few minutes until some air shows up in the res ... after a while no more air will show up. remove plug. refill. replace plug. turn pumps on. repeat repeat for many hours. once you get all the major pockets out, you just have to let the pumps run for 12-24 hours to get all the micro bubbles out. do not turn the pumps on with the plug open, it will take in some water for a second, but then the air will just displace around and you'll have a geyser on your hands. wink.gif this is very counterproductive

one thing you'll probably want to do is invest in some of those quick disconnects so you can decouple all of your mobo components from the rest of the cabinet pretty easily. and you can get two extra fittings with a test harness tube for filling and leak testing, while your mobo is nice and dry. thumb.gif it's really the best feature of the case labs line .. i really enjoy it smile.gif


looks pretty sick.. we are kind of on the same track. just not sure why you went with the smaller 3/8 ID tubing... or did you?


you may also want to ditch that series connector infavor of extending it to run out to a component or two and back in. thumb.gif .. lots of options
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