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4.5ghz
1.350v in bios

stable run of prime95 using 1344 ffts

cpuz idle is 1.336; load 1.352

as you're running watercooling I'm pretty sure your temps are like high 50s are low 60s, if you want you can go ahead and increase the overclock, each time you change a setting test with prime.

By the way how long did you run it for? 15/20mins should be okay for each FFT. Also try 1792 FFT aswell. smile.gif
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as you're running watercooling I'm pretty sure your temps are like high 50s are low 60s, if you want you can go ahead and increase the overclock, each time you change a setting test with prime.

Am I just going to change the multiplier and the vcore at this point and just leave the other settings on auto for now?
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as you're running watercooling I'm pretty sure your temps are like high 50s are low 60s, if you want you can go ahead and increase the overclock, each time you change a setting test with prime.

Am I just going to change the multiplier and the vcore at this point and just leave the other settings on auto for now?

yeah smile.gif

PLL and VTT can be tweaked later on. Once you find a overclock that you're happy with and vcore is close to stabilizing it, then it would be a good idea to see how PLL and VTT can help.
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i have learned all kinds of stuff w this cpu and mobo the last few days. (looks like we have the same). first and foremost would be that the auto OC throws waay more voltage at the CPU then needed....at lower LLC levels. i.e. Level 4

my stable settings right now are

Adv Turbo = Disabled
Load Opt Settings = Disabled
4.4ghz
CPU Core V = Fixed
1.27V

CPU LLC = Level 1 (Level 2 on my old BIOS used to just freak my PC out and kept resetting itself. I haven't tried again since I updated my BIOS though. I also read some stuff online where that Level 2 thing was a known issue so keep that in mind)

Most everything else was auto
Also, when i was in my BIOS today i saw that my ram was set at ddr-1333, so I had to change that to 1600. might want to double check that

hope some of that helps and GL w the OCing
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i have learned all kinds of stuff w this cpu and mobo the last few days. (looks like we have the same). first and foremost would be that the auto OC throws waay more voltage at the CPU then needed....at lower LLC levels. i.e. Level 4
my stable settings right now are
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4.4ghz
CPU Core V = Fixed
1.27V
CPU LLC = Level 1 (Level 2 on my old BIOS used to just freak my PC out and kept resetting itself. I haven't tried again since I updated my BIOS though. I also read some stuff online where that Level 2 thing was a known issue so keep that in mind)
Most everything else was auto
Also, when i was in my BIOS today i saw that my ram was set at ddr-1333, so I had to change that to 1600. might want to double check that
hope some of that helps and GL w the OCing

thanks for your advice and input! smile.gif
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Well, so far I'm up to 4.7ghz with just auto settings on all voltages but dram and vcore.

Using a bios voltage of 1.400. cpuz idle: 1.384; load 1.400


My goal is at least 5.0ghz. I may do more later tonight, but I'm gonna take a break for a bit and play some skyrim or something smile.gif
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Yea I was having a hell of a time with voltages on my 2600k.... I then set voltage to auto and just changed VRM Frequency to 350 and LLC Level 3 or 4 and booted at 4.5 100% stable after days of manual tweaking. My voltages on idle at 1.296v on load 1.265.
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Well, I spent some more times tonight doing some overclocking. I got to my goal of 5.0 doing prime95 tests. I want to try and stabilize this voltage by getting all the auto settings put on manual settings, plus try and get an offset voltage set. I have no idea how to do the offset voltages though.

Here are my settings for 5.0:

bios voltage: 1.520
cpuz idle: 1.504
cpuz load: 1.528


Temps were 69-72-78-70.

Where do I go from here? And how are my temps/voltages?
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Work on lowering that PLL. A PLL at 1.832 can be to high and actually cause more heat/instability. And a known cause for some x124 BSOD's. I was getting random x124's and it was the CPU PLL. It was 1.796 and now stable at 1.602. Try lowering that PLL. Set it to 1.50 or 1.60 and see if it helps with stability. If you BSOD keep SLOWLY bumping CPU PLL til you find a good hotspot. Alot of the times the CPU PLL can be a hidden devil causing instability/excessive heat. in my case it was. Causing me random x124 BSOD's when system was not under load........Tried EVERY Variable to remedy the situation. finally i stumbled upon a thread on PLL voltages and x124 BSOD's. Turns out it was the PLL the whole time. 1.6 PLL (1.596 had a tad bit of instability issues. x101 BSOD in IBT on very high. i think due to it dropping a tad. 1.602 is stable for the CPU PLL and temps are lower. Try looking into changing that PLL voltage it may help your stability. It did for me.



Read the recent post also and your Voltage is REALLY High. Pushing 1.5+ is not safe for the sandy bridge 32 NM chip for long term use. The OC your trying to hit is pretty hard and most chips unless golden or close can't really mantain that kind of a speed with a safe voltage and temp. Your temps are fine for load. But that voltage is defiantly not safe. Keep it below 1.45 tops in my opinion. If your on an air setup 1.40 max in my opinion for 24/7 use. But the 1.5+ range of VCORE will definatly cause degrading of the chip in some form or another if it runs like that for normal use. Also keep HW monitor on in the backround to monitor LLC Voltage spikes. I find it usefull to be on because i can see when my LLC spiked voltage. it rounds it to nearest vcore though. Example: Max voltage 1.38 when my chip really hit 1.376 as the max. Or you can sit and watch CPU and log your LLC changes. But each chip is unique none the less and jumping the 1.4+ voltage range should be done at your own risk. Degrading is a possibility in the 1.4+ range. Key word being possibility. Many have ran 1.4+ since launch and are fine. there is minimal reports of sandy degradation to which is good. But if you wanna be 99.9 percent safe stay in the 1.3 range. Nothing is 100 percent safe though hence why i say 99.9 percent safe. Perhaps intel discovered magic silicon?
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Work on lowering that PLL. A PLL at 1.832 can be to high and actually cause more heat/instability. And a known cause for some x124 BSOD's. I was getting random x124's and it was the CPU PLL. It was 1.796 and now stable at 1.602. Try lowering that PLL. Set it to 1.50 or 1.60 and see if it helps with stability. If you BSOD keep SLOWLY bumping CPU PLL til you find a good hotspot. Alot of the times the CPU PLL can be a hidden devil causing instability/excessive heat. in my case it was. Causing me random x124 BSOD's when system was not under load........Tried EVERY Variable to remedy the situation. finally i stumbled upon a thread on PLL voltages and x124 BSOD's. Turns out it was the PLL the whole time. 1.6 PLL (1.596 had a tad bit of instability issues. x101 BSOD in IBT on very high. i think due to it dropping a tad. 1.602 is stable for the CPU PLL and temps are lower. Try looking into changing that PLL voltage it may help your stability. It did for me.
Read the recent post also and your Voltage is REALLY High. Pushing 1.5+ is not safe for the sandy bridge 32 NM chip for long term use. The OC your trying to hit is pretty hard and most chips unless golden or close can't really mantain that kind of a speed with a safe voltage and temp. Your temps are fine for load. But that voltage is defiantly not safe. Keep it below 1.45 tops in my opinion. If your on an air setup 1.40 max in my opinion for 24/7 use. But the 1.5+ range of VCORE will definatly cause degrading of the chip in some form or another if it runs like that for normal use. Also keep HW monitor on in the backround to monitor LLC Voltage spikes. I find it usefull to be on because i can see when my LLC spiked voltage. it rounds it to nearest vcore though. Example: Max voltage 1.38 when my chip really hit 1.376 as the max. Or you can sit and watch CPU and log your LLC changes. But each chip is unique none the less and jumping the 1.4+ voltage range should be done at your own risk. Degrading is a possibility in the 1.4+ range. Key word being possibility. Many have ran 1.4+ since launch and are fine. there is minimal reports of sandy degradation to which is good. But if you wanna be 99.9 percent safe stay in the 1.3 range. Nothing is 100 percent safe though hence why i say 99.9 percent safe. Perhaps intel discovered magic silicon?

Thanks for your input! smile.gif
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