Originally Posted by Stefy
Originally Posted by Obakemono
2nd post and the AMD haters come out of the woodwork, AGAIN. This thread was doomed just because it had BD/AMD in it.
MAYBE it's a good processor and THAT is why it is selling good. Anyone ever think of that outside the normal AMD bashing????????
It's not a good CPU, anyone can see that. However, many cores and higher clock frequency does seem very tempting to people who don't really know what they're buying.
Anyone with actual knowledge in CPUs and the like can see it is a good CPU hampered by a few bad design choices, a bad process and a lack of software optimisation. (The last bit is pretty much true of any new architecture.)
As the process, etc gets better, BD is actually a decent enough chip. If it was a little less costly then it'd be pretty much another Phenom II.
Originally Posted by Stefy
Originally Posted by fapestar
From what I gather from Interviews...BD is the Future Chip now.
I'll be willing to bet when OS 8 comes out and software and drivers advances, this chip will kill.
Future chip? It performs horribly in today's software. Whether it'll improve with time is irrelevant as there will be better chips by then to replace it.
No, a 386 performs horribly in today's software. I'm willing to bet that most people on OCN wouldn't notice the difference if I swapped their motherboard and CPU out for a BD one.
And on the other hand, most wouldn't notice the difference between a 2500k and a Q6600 either.
Originally Posted by Homeles
Originally Posted by Papas
I really think mods should just start banning the idiotic fanboys who just bash something over and over. 99% of the people bashing this cpu have never touched it, yet because it looses in benchmarks, its worthless unless you benchmark every day I bet half of you wouldn't be able to tell the differencbetween a 2600k and bd in everyday use enless someone told you.but you are a fanboy so you are going to disagree and continue to bash something you really know nothing about.
The mods should ban the people that are correct? Right on, kiddo. Right on.
There's a difference between uninformed OCNers making exaggerated statements based off a graph and being correct, actually.
Being correct usually implies you've done actual research beyond looking at the pretty graphs,
Originally Posted by soth7676
I wish the AMD faithful will just chalk this up to being a very bad CPU and move on... Please don't call me a intel fan either...I have had AMD since the original athlon series... I had a AM2 and two AM3 CPUs since then...I was always happy with amd products cause at the time they gave good performance at a great price
But with BD...the price for it stinks to high heaven not to mention the god awful power draw on it....I wanted BD to succeed but it didn't...thank goodness the llanos are doing well and will keep amd afloat till they can make the BD architechure actually be viable for the price and power it uses...AMD screwed the pooch on this one...let's hope they get it right the second time around
Except it isn't
a very bad CPU, a very bad CPU would be the first ever Celeron. They were literally slugs in terms of speed. Bulldozers slightly under where it should be at minimum, oh no, now its very bad! Even though I can practically guarantee that if I swapped out your 2500k for a BD at a lower clock speed, you wouldn't notice a difference.
Originally Posted by Oedipus
Originally Posted by Usario
and is considerably faster in everything except low-res gaming, 3+ GPU gaming, and irrelevant single-threaded benchmarks. Power consumption is a big concern, though, but be fair -- that's mainly GloFo's fault.
So, it's as fast as the 2500k as long as the application is GPU limited or one of the many that are single threaded. That's great. It also doesn't matter "whose fault" the power consumption thing is; it's still a problem.
It was a problem, the newer the chip you buy the better power consumption is.
And sorry, but I don't know anyone on here that isn't GPU limited in most games, if you game at 1680x1050 or above and it's not an RTS or FSX, you're probably GPU limited.