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The fools are the ones who talk about something they have never even tried. Benchmarks can only tell so much. How many people out there actually use their computer to benchmark on a daily basis? Every system is different. You can have the exact same setup as in a review and get different results.Your comments scream ignorance. Ignorance is bliss. More power to you.thumb.gif

If something entirely quantitative like a benchmark (and, indeed, multiple benchmarks carried out using different configurations) "can only tell so much", then I would love for you to tell me what other form of gauge or metric we should use to measure performance.
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If something entirely quantitative like a benchmark (and, indeed, multiple benchmarks carried out using different configurations) "can only tell so much", then I would love for you to tell me what other form of gauge or metric we should use to measure performance.

It's called real world. Don't get me wrong, I'm not stating benchmarks are inaccurate. You can look at benchmarks all you want but you won't know definitively how something performs until it's in your rig.
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And what's that exactly? Do you have a BD cpu? You shouldn't act like you know something unless it's from experience. I think the purpose of benchmarks has gotten way outta hand lately.

Most people on this forum has read reviews and benchmarks from professional sites and users. We know BD is not competitive at their price point. But most people who bought BD didn't do any research. They blindly buys into the 8 core, higher clock speed hype without actually checking into performance.
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There is more to a CPU than brand and MHz. When it comes to multithreading BD beat whatever Intel have. My one and only problem with BD is the amount of power they use but that I put at the feet of Global Foundries. It's obvious AMD weren't expecting the node to be such a disaster.

That completely inaccurate. i7 2600 beats FX-8150 in most multi-threaded applications (FX-8150 wins in very few cases)

And i5 2500 performs neck to neck with FX-8120 in most multi-threaded benchmarks

I'm not even talking about Gulftown or SB-E which completely annihilate bulldozer in any multi-threaded benchmarks
Edited by ThePath - 12/4/11 at 4:32am
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i can believe they are selling out due to demand and not lack of stock.
most of the gamers i know from high school only remember the AMD that kicked netburst in the teeth and they know nothing about the current state of affairs other than BD has 8 cores. BD having 8 cores is also an easy way to sell it to the uninformed public, excellent marketing IMO.
both of those groups, people remembering the AMD VS netburst fiasco and the general public are buying into BD like nothing else.
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Most people on this forum has read reviews and benchmarks from professional sites and users. We know BD is not competitive at their price point. But most people who bought BD didn't do any research. They blindly buys into the 8 core, higher clock speed hype without actually checking into performance.

Do you have any proof of your claim that most people who buy BD haven't done their research? No, you're just assuming right? I think we would be seeing a ton of returns if that was the case. All I'm seeing are the 8 cores out of stock at many places. Unlike intel, AMD do not have massive marketing campaigns so I fail to see how the average joe would come across BD without having done some kind of research first. Has it ever occurred to you there is a possibility that many people buying BD are informed?

It's a new architecture bad design or not, we do not know what it's fully capable of yet. We can guess 5-10% more performance from the scheduler updates but we don't actually know until we see it for ourselves. We already know what Intel is capable of, there aren't any performance updates for SB coming. BD is more or less a mystery right now.
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Unless you have sales data from every retailer, you can't disprove that either. My statement is an inference based on the terrible performance/price ratio of the FX 8150 but people are still buying it. I can only assumed they are not familiar with the benchmarks. Say what you will about potential of the architecture, the BD CPU itself is not likely to gain much performance. From the Windows 8 Preview benchmarks, BD is gaining 2-10% from the new scheduler, even with a 10% boost, the FX-8150 is still behind the 2500K in gaming. Maybe Piledriver will fix whatever bottleneck that exists in BD, but the BD CPUs themselves are not going to get significantly faster due to any software or bios patch.
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someone found a registry patch for linux and claims that it is still in the works
First this was a hoax.
Second no one ever from the debian community confirmed that
Third it is not possible to develop a registry_whatever for linux. Linux has no registry
__________________________________

Just like Scorpion49 wrote, they sell BDs.
Why?
Of course marketing. They say:
first eight core
+super fast
+superb multi tasking abilitiy
+whatever
_______________________
= people buy it.

I said it right after release, no one replied, acknowledged or said that this is correct so I try it again:
Average Joe doesn`t look into reviews or look at benchmarks.
He just buys a PC with BD in it or buys random parts and builds a rig.
(With something in mind like "A I7 got 4 cores, the FX has 8 so it has to be better. More is always better")
And AMD can put some wicked marketing slogans next to the CPU. The commercials always tell crap.
And this 8-core, multi task, CPU and Memory GHz world record holder are true.
Some shouldn`t be compared to an other products but they are still right.
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And anyway, I am happy if AMD gets some bucks so Intel doesn`get the whole cake. thumb.gif
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even with a 10% boost, the FX-8150 is still behind the 2500K in gaming..

Now can you tell me why you would care about low res gaming benchmarks?
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So they are eliminating Bulldozers competition in order to make Bulldozer sell? Smart move by AMD, smart move. Take Phenom and Thuban off the market and system builders are left with ... BULLDOZER! AMD 1 , everyone else 0 smile.gif. Well done AMD! thumb.gif
 
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