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Well, I listen to lots of Metal. Death metal, such as this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pI_kw_PVYNA&hd=1, or thrash, like Evile, Slayer etc.

But I also listen to Jazz, or Jazz fusion like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jM6O3IGUl0

Then I have the occasional game like GTA IV and BF3.

I would like the best sound card, amps and headphones possible for my needs under $800.

Maybe Grado's? What soundcard/amp?
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What do you have right now? My recommendation is to start small so that you get a taste of some good audio if you don't have already something decent.

If you spend $800 and realize you don't like it, then there's a bigger hole in your wallet that you regret than a $200 headphone and your STX.
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All I have is onboard and HD 201's. tongue.gif
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Well, you'd really have to hear the headphones before buying to see which sound you prefer, but you have 2 options in my opinion. Grado SR325is/Allesandro MS-2s or Grado RS1/i's.

Depending on how you like your metal to sound, you may actually prefer the SR-325i's to the RS-1s, that's why I recommend you try and listen to these headphones before purchasing them if at all possible.

The RS-1's will need an amplifier while the SR-325i's will run fine off an ipod or phone.

If you buy the RS-1's I suggest trying to find them used. You can easily find them for 450 dollars. Otherwise those cost 700 dollars new. The RS-1's have a warmer sound than your typical Grados. They're very forgiving headphones. They're very smooth sounding headphones.

From there, I would suggest heading over to head-fi and seeing what external DAC/amp combo would go best with your headphones. You'll ultimately want an external DAC that is on the darker side since Grado's are bright.

The best amp for grados are the MAD Ear+HD, but that will clear a hole in your pocket. I've seen them used for 465 dollars, but good luck. They rarely go used on the market. Grado lovers love them.

Don't expect amazing gaming, but do expect amazing metal. They should also perform well enough for Jazz.
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I have been doing some reading and have a similar post over at Head-Fi and the Grado's from my reading don't have very good bass. So if bass is not very important to you I have been told/read that Grado's are basically the best for Metal. I listen to a lot of metal with bass drops and low bass hits like Winds of Plague so good bass is important to me.

This is what I am considering on getting for a much smaller $350~ budget...
ASUS Xonar Essence STX
Beyer DT770 Pro 250 Ohm or if those are not good enough for me I will get the Denon AH-D2000

There really is no place I can think of where I live to listen to high end headphones before I buy.

Edit: I also think you should start smaller even if you have the money to blow. If you get a lower end setup and feel like it is not enough for you then upgrade.
Edited by ChaosBlades - 12/4/11 at 5:43pm
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I have been doing some reading and have a similar post over at Head-Fi and the Grado's from my reading don't have very good bass. So if bass is not very important to you I have been told/read that Grado's are basically the best for Metal. I listen to a lot of metal with bass drops and low bass hits like Winds of Plague so good bass is important to me.

This is what I am considering on getting for a much smaller $350~ budget...
ASUS Xonar Essence STX
Beyer DT770 Pro 250 Ohm or if those are not good enough for me I will get the Denon AH-D2000

There really is no place I can think of where I live to listen to high end headphones before I buy.

First of all, Grado's have bass. They are engineered to be excellent for metal and rock and all the bass that you need from guitar rifts and bass guitars and drums will all be there. It's not bass less. It's just not a bass cannon like Ultrasones.

If you think you're going to get good metal out of Beyer's think again. Rock and metal suck on DT770s.

D2000s aren't even that impressive, especially for 350 dollars. I wouldn't even consider them unless I could score them for 250 max.
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I should have been more specific. I know they have bass but like you said not bass cannons. It is more of the weakest thing about them not trying to say it has horrible bass. 95% of the time you don't need really good bass for Metal unless you listen to a lot of extreme metal that has bass drops and breakdowns with low bass hits. He does listen to extreme metal like the youtube video he posted so I though I would throw that in there.

Also you are the first person that has said those 2 phones are bad for Metal that I could find.
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The weakest thing about them is actually their weak sound stage. To some their up front in your face sound (though a benefit to others).

Would you offer him headphones that didn't dominate in the area he's wanting them for most simply because they're "lacking in bass?" That song really isn't asking for tons of bass that the Grados can't provide.
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Basically you think they have enough bass and I said they don't. It is all opinion we are both right Im just trying to look at it another way but I should have been more specific in saying that they do have bass just not crazy bass. To bad there are not any places where you can just try them out and see what you like.

Here is a thread that will help...
http://www.head-fi.org/t/544245/on-ear-headphones-for-primarily-death-metal-grind

"I'd hear people recommending the low end grados all day long for rock and from what little time I've listened to them, I have to agree. They don't have a whole lot of bass, though, so if having really "thumpy" double bass is important to you, you may want to check out other cans with more bass."

"For rock music, look no further than Grado's line of headphones. The only possible issue is you may find them a bit uncomfortable a first, but there are remedies for that."

"I listen to hardcore/metalcore/deathcore stuff and a select few death metal bands and I'll say Grados still work perfect for them. I have the SR80i and I think everything is just right, even the bass."

OPer "would like something with more bass, and maybe something that don't allow quite as much sound to escape (though this is less critical then the bass).

i like a lot of 8-string metal like ion dissonance and the tony danza tapdance extravaganza, and the bass just isn't there for stuff like this."
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