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Mayhems Pink Aurora Failing after 24 hours.

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#2 ·
Let me first say you really did a great job with the theme of your build. It's unique and really stands out. As far as the Aurora coolant, everything I read says this isn't supposed to be used as your day to day coolant. It's for demos and shows, since most blocks and pumps willl not like all the floating particulate inside that coolant. Of course I could have misunderstood, but that was my understanding.

http://mayhems-aurora.wikispaces.com/
 
#3 ·
Oh my, im screwed
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But why make it so public? everybody wants it
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so lets say 20 hours of fun for 25 dollar a litre
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#4 ·
From Mayhem's site

'The system must be clean and have no chemicals of any kind left in the system. There must be no bleach, biocide and anti corrosive inhibitors. We recommend you flush your system with Either DI water or Mayhems Ultra Pure H20 Before use. Mayhems "Aurora" has biocides and inhibitors included in the mixture.'

Is there any biocide in the loop?
 
#5 ·
Nope

As u can read i cleaned and flushed the parts verry good! i read the rules verry good of mayhem.

But after 24 hours already gone
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like *** :|
 
#6 ·
Oh man for a second k3nny I thought you were saying that it killed your system in 24 hours! That still sucks that it just goes away that fast. If the affect doesn't happen anymore, I wonder what happened to the chemicals that made it happen?
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#10 ·
U cannot reverse the flow without Draining it
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When ill drain it, Aurora will be gone forever
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Temps are btw LOWER than first, because now there is water everywhere
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PS, i let the system run for aprox 5 hours with DI, so should be safe, the water what came out was clear and no particalar things in it
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#12 ·
Hi there

you running 2 rads in 1 loop with 2 pump and what to looks like gpus in the loops as well.

There is the wiki for a reason and looks like you've not read it.

We did not expect it to work in every system going but if you dont follow the wiki then its really not our fault.

@DirectOverkill there is no small print any ware. we've been 100% upfront and honest with every thing we said about Aurora. There are people who get it to work and those that dont.
 
#13 ·
Is this loop already complex? err, ok
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As you can see i got a verry good and clean loop, with allot of pressure provided by 2 DDC 355(2x18W) pumps, i dont see the problem tbh
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#14 ·
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Originally Posted by Mayhem View Post

@DirectOverkill there is no small print any ware. we've been 100% upfront and honest with every thing we said about Aurora. There are people who get it to work and those that dont.
I did not say I doubt your honesty. At least I read disclosure before applied liquid. So I avoided possible problem.
I am sure not many ppl do that.

I was rather disappointed about it, because it still looks amazing.
Hopefully you are doing improvements on it.

That is all.
 
#15 ·
Yeh we are still working on it to help make it better but it takes a lot of testing and alot of work.

@k.3nny acutely just because you run 2 x DDC in you system doesn't give you lots of pressure at all. Your over head is still not as good as you may think. DDC's have there limits. The main reason for 2 DDC's is redundancy not because it will power a larger loop. So yes your loop is complex. If you have 2 loops with just 1 DDC on each loop it will probably work fine.

Res > Pump > Block > Rad = Good
Res > Pump > Block > Block > Block > Block > Rad > Rad = Low pressure, Low flow rate, Low over head pressure = Bad for Aurora
 
#16 ·
I had Primochill UV dye bomb fail after 24 hours-ish. I mean the water was dead clear. But they had good customer support and sent 3 bombs and didnt have any problems after.
 
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Yeh we are still working on it to help make it better but it takes a lot of testing and alot of work.
@k.3nny acutely just because you run 2 x DDC in you system doesn't give you lots of pressure at all. Your over head is still not as good as you may think. DDC's have there limits. The main reason for 2 DDC's is redundancy not because it will power a larger loop. So yes your loop is complex. If you have 2 loops with just 1 DDC on each loop it will probably work fine.
Res > Pump > Block > Rad = Good
Res > Pump > Block > Block > Block > Block > Rad > Rad = Low pressure, Low flow rate, Low over head pressure = Bad for Aurora
Hmm ok
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Thnks for the info then
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Then ill keep running this liquid untill im draining it for an update, or something else .
 
#20 ·
This is all whole reason i got out of dyes and colored fluids in the first place .they look great but for everyday use I switched to colored hose for now on.I know it does kinda kill the build not having the Color in the fluid but i myself cant afford clogged rads and destroyed equipment to have colored fluid.But that's just my 2 cents.If i was building one for a contest or maby for a one day show of course i would run colored Fluids or Dyes.My new build i was thinking maby trying to use lighting to color the Fluid.But i still haven't even ordered the new parts yet do to everything being out of stock.But again K3nny you've outdone yourself with another incredible build.Love it!
 
#21 ·
I plugged some similar parts into the estimator and you should be getting over 1.5 GPM and over 10.5psi max pressure not that pressure has anything to do with suspended solids in a liquid though. Despite the complexity, this appears to be a pretty high system flow rate.

IMO, I don't think pressure makes one bit of difference (incompressible liquid) nor would splitting the loop apart if your resulting flow rates end up essentially the same. If what we are talking about is keeping suspended solids in suspension, then is has nothing to do with pressure and only partially what flow rate we have. What it really boils down to is minimum velocity which a a factor of both flow rate and cross sectional area. The flow rate we can figure out and from what you have, seems pretty darn good. The velocity piece however is something we generally know little about since the cross sectioanl area changes dramatically throughout the system. I suspect the largest cross section and lowest velocities exist in the radiator plenum chambers. Very few radiators design these to retain higher velocities and it becomes a problem for trapping bubbles as well as solids. The swiftech MCR series are really the only ones that have anything other than a large box. Most plenum chambers probably have a sectional area that is 7x or more that of 1/2" ID tubing so the velocity there will be a good 7x slower.

My opinion but more testing with different radiator types at various flow rates if you really wanted to pin down compatibility. Unless the particles were small enough to get caught in micro channels and pins of blocks..I would be suspect of the radiator plenum chamber as the sediment trap where velocity is its lowest.

Bottom line for me though, the bends and curves and general nature of an average water colling loop will dissipate solids. Any liguid not capable of getting centrifuge treatment and remain clear is at risk to dissipating those solids over time including dyes that are based on solids.
 
#26 ·
Hmmm...I do apologize, but I saw your videos but I don't understand what is the issue. Is it turbulence/bubbles/air or has the dye separated?

I have a test sample of their uv pink that's been sitting in a bottle for ~2 weeks and there's no separation. In fact, I'm running their uv green and I have not had any separation or (if its) the turbulence for a month now.

I would contact the mayhems rep/member here since they have some really good customer support
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Good luck and again a very unique build, after seeing the vids, I was under the impression this was a lady modder or a "for her build" but I guess pink/fussia is acceptable
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