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2-3 seconds!?! 0.o

Yup. I was a bit surprised. I was expecting 5-10 seconds. I set the post screen to stay around for 1-2 seconds and right after that the SSD starts working its magic. I ought to time it again, just to make sure.

Really wish I got a larger SSD since mine is already half full from programs (although the space just started to get occupied after I installed Steam. Games are all on my other hard drive so I know it's not the games) and such. Waiting for those Crucial M5 drives (or was it M500? Doesn't matter. 1TB SSD! That's if I remembered that correctly from Anandtech's article). tongue.gif
i have your same mobo and a M4 and win 7 pro like you and no other drive in a system, my boot is way longer than that! Disreguardinig the POST as well! eek.gif
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i have your same mobo and a M4 and win 7 pro like you and no other drive in a system, my boot is way longer than that! Disreguardinig the POST as well! eek.gif

Really? I'll time it later just to make sure, but my boot time is pretty fast. Anything you think could contribute to this? Still a fairly new drive with only about 2 months of wear on it.
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Timed with a result of 4 seconds after post. I started when these blue dashes in the upper left corner appeared which appeared after I disabled GUI on boot so I see those dashes in the corner instead of the windows logo. That's usually when Windows finally starts up (post lingers around for a bit even if it no longer shows anything. I hit the escape key a second or two after the large American Megatrends logo disappeared and it still booted into UEFI so that's how I know it's still at post...or...what would that be called?).

Still, ridiculously fast. 4 seconds...
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Not sure if this is the best place to ask but I noticed a few others did so I am in the market for an SSD upgrade right now I am willing to spend 200-400bucks the higher end would be for easily an amazing deal one that wouldnt require changing for years I hope.

I currently have random normal sata drives and 2 G2 Intel 80gb drives in raid 0 which I have been pleased with but I am running out of space (because of my games) otherwise all my data goes on random sata hdds.

So I have been contemplating which drives are best these days should or do I need more then 120gb ssds? should I raid 0 with 2x120 or just get the better deal @ 240gb and perhaps even go as far as raid 0 with 2x240gb.....

I have been comparing prices and althought at first I wanted to go wtih samsung 840s it seems the performance does not fully justify the purchase esp if you compare the nonpro vs the pro vs other similiar drives.

Lastly I have been eyeballing sandisk extreme drives seems it offers the best Bang for your buck and seems to all have good reviews so please feel free to share any comments you might have.

For Example sake
2x120 sandisk extreme = 2x$111 = 222 for 240gb RAID 0
vs
1x240 sandisk extreme = 1x$180
leading up to
2x240 sandisk extreme = 2x$180 = 360 for 480gb raid 0

the 240gb ssds from sandisk are the better deal and are a tad bit faster then the 120s if you compare thme i believe... but if it all just comes down to money I think id rather go with best bank for buck rather then the bestest drive because in reality only benchmarks show a difference btw a nanosecond and a few seconds....

and just for arguements sake my 2 G2 intel 80gb ssds according to passmark score
overall 2274
seq read 439.3
seq write 118
random seek 71.6
RAID 0


if i should instead post this somewhere else just let me know thanks...
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Timed with a result of 4 seconds after post. I started when these blue dashes in the upper left corner appeared which appeared after I disabled GUI on boot so I see those dashes in the corner instead of the windows logo. That's usually when Windows finally starts up (post lingers around for a bit even if it no longer shows anything. I hit the escape key a second or two after the large American Megatrends logo disappeared and it still booted into UEFI so that's how I know it's still at post...or...what would that be called?).

Still, ridiculously fast. 4 seconds...

I finally got around to timing things and 4 seconds sounds...



What are your BIOS settings and did you do anything special in the OS?

I have a A8 5600K and a 64GB M4, spinpoint F3, DVD drive, 8GB DDR3 1600MHz CL8, and a PSU in that PC, nothing else and I am getting about 13-14 seconds POST and a total of 25 seconds till desktop from poweron. sad-smiley-002.gif

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Not sure if this is the best place to ask but I noticed a few others did so I am in the market for an SSD upgrade right now I am willing to spend 200-400bucks the higher end would be for easily an amazing deal one that wouldnt require changing for years I hope.

I currently have random normal sata drives and 2 G2 Intel 80gb drives in raid 0 which I have been pleased with but I am running out of space (because of my games) otherwise all my data goes on random sata hdds.

So I have been contemplating which drives are best these days should or do I need more then 120gb ssds? should I raid 0 with 2x120 or just get the better deal @ 240gb and perhaps even go as far as raid 0 with 2x240gb.....

I have been comparing prices and althought at first I wanted to go wtih samsung 840s it seems the performance does not fully justify the purchase esp if you compare the nonpro vs the pro vs other similiar drives.

Lastly I have been eyeballing sandisk extreme drives seems it offers the best Bang for your buck and seems to all have good reviews so please feel free to share any comments you might have.

For Example sake
2x120 sandisk extreme = 2x$111 = 222 for 240gb RAID 0
vs
1x240 sandisk extreme = 1x$180
leading up to
2x240 sandisk extreme = 2x$180 = 360 for 480gb raid 0

the 240gb ssds from sandisk are the better deal and are a tad bit faster then the 120s if you compare thme i believe... but if it all just comes down to money I think id rather go with best bank for buck rather then the bestest drive because in reality only benchmarks show a difference btw a nanosecond and a few seconds....

and just for arguements sake my 2 G2 intel 80gb ssds according to passmark score
overall 2274
seq read 439.3
seq write 118
random seek 71.6
RAID 0


if i should instead post this somewhere else just let me know thanks...
I'd just get a 240/256GB drive and if you feel for more space you can get another later on for RAID 0. Don't bother with smaller drives and RAID if there is no need to.
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I finally got around to timing things and 4 seconds sounds...



What are your BIOS settings and did you do anything special in the OS?

I have a A8 5600K and a 64GB M4, spinpoint F3, DVD drive, 8GB DDR3 1600MHz CL8, and a PSU in that PC, nothing else and I am getting about 13-14 seconds POST and a total of 25 seconds till desktop from poweron. sad-smiley-002.gif...

Until you see the Windows logo or "Windows..." on your monitor, you have not started booting the OS. POST time is affected by many things, from the board itself, to Option ROMs running, and devices used with the PC. My ASUS X58 board has three diagnostic tests it runs before the board begins to POST! That takes at least 10 seconds, I can watch the error LEDs come on and turn off one by one if the test is passed, but the monitor is blank. No, that cannot be disabled.

If your board does not have this nonsense (most don't) the main general secret to a fast POST is the fewest devices possible. Optical and HDD drives are slow, and each one must be checked. The more HDDs you have, the slower it goes. Fastest POST is one SSD for the OS, and nothing else. Multiple SSDs is still fast, they are awake in a few seconds. Disable any secondary SATA interfaces if not used.

POST has become much longer than OS boot with good SSDs. ASRock has a Fast Boot option with Windows 8, where they have decreased the POST time so much, you cannot get into the BIOS unless you install a special utility. In Windows 8, you run the utility to run the BIOS/UEFI on the next restart, and then must restart, it's the only way you can get in.
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I finally got around to timing things and 4 seconds sounds...



What are your BIOS settings and did you do anything special in the OS?

I have a A8 5600K and a 64GB M4, spinpoint F3, DVD drive, 8GB DDR3 1600MHz CL8, and a PSU in that PC, nothing else and I am getting about 13-14 seconds POST and a total of 25 seconds till desktop from poweron. sad-smiley-002.gif...

Until you see the Windows logo or "Windows..." on your monitor, you have not started booting the OS.
I never have windows logos. Ever. GUI on post disabled. tongue.gif
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POST time is affected by many things, from the board itself, to Option ROMs running, and devices used with the PC. My ASUS X58 board has three diagnostic tests it runs before the board begins to POST! That takes at least 10 seconds, I can watch the error LEDs come on and turn off one by one if the test is passed, but the monitor is blank. No, that cannot be disabled.
I know, I have a bunch disabled, however it is my first AMD build and have not a clue on most of the settings.
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If your board does not have this nonsense (most don't) the main general secret to a fast POST is the fewest devices possible. Optical and HDD drives are slow, and each one must be checked. The more HDDs you have, the slower it goes. Fastest POST is one SSD for the OS, and nothing else. Multiple SSDs is still fast, they are awake in a few seconds. Disable any secondary SATA interfaces if not used.
Done did that, I'm going to take the HDD and DVD drive out soon too.
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POST has become much longer than OS boot with good SSDs. ASRock has a Fast Boot option with Windows 8, where they have decreased the POST time so much, you cannot get into the BIOS unless you install a special utility. In Windows 8, you run the utility to run the BIOS/UEFI on the next restart, and then must restart, it's the only way you can get in.
bigeyedsmiley.png I want!

Actually, I can't believe that 4 seconds is possible. I couldn't even get a virtual machine to boot windows that fast on a freaking RAMDisk lol!
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For some reason Windows really wants to chkdsk my SSD on boot. I probably shouldn't let it, right?
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For some reason Windows really wants to chkdsk my SSD on boot. I probably shouldn't let it, right?
disable it
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hey Sean, doing some research for my Company, we are using mroe and more SSD's for client PC's.

Just looking to keep up to date here - any comment on top Quality, Reliability, Speed etc. whos the top on the top without losing quality control
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