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Corsair SSDs don't get a lot of love here at OCN. If you notice my sig... two performance 3s... best set of SSDs that (were) available for RAID. Great GC without the need for TRIM. The Pros build on, and improve that performance. For me.. not enough difference in performance between the two to upgrade.. That is unless I can score a few through work...biggrin.gif. IMHO, Performance Pros are extremely nice SSDs. Let the flame wars begin!
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Originally Posted by trumpet-205 View Post

malikq86, couple things wrong about your assessment.
* Crucial M4 uses Marvell 9174-BLD2 while Corsair Performance Pro and Plextor M3S use Marvell 9174-BKK2. BLD2 is a revised version of BKK2, though no body knows what has been revised.
* Crucial M4 uses 25 nm NAND. Plextor M3S uses 24 nm NAND. Corsair Performance Pro uses 32 nm NAND.

  • Whatttt...the M4 has the newer version? I was almost sure it was the other way around...Corsair's BKK2 is the revised version of the M4's BLD2...weird...I swear I thought I read that. I must of misunderstood it.

    See: http://www.pureoverclock.com/article1415.html

    "The Corsair Performance Pro 128GB SSD contains an updated Marvell controller that continues to use a SATA 6G interface, able to take advantage of the insane speeds offered by the new standard. "

    "The drive is somewhat similar to the Crucial M4 in that it uses the same controller the Marvell 88S-9174 6Gbps controller. This drive differs from the M4 in two ways though: first, the Performance Pro comes with 512MB DRAM cache in the form of two 256MB modules of Nanya DDR3-1333 DRAM used both for speed and garbage collection. The second difference is the use of Toshiba Toggle NAND."

    See: http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/Corsair_Performance_Pro/

    "One such option is the Marvell 88SS9174-BKK2, which is an 8-channel controller that supports 500+ Mb/s speeds via SATA 6Gbps interface. Additionally, the latest Marvell controllers no longer suffer from the stuttering issues that initially harmed the controller’s popularity, allowing the SandForce controller to take over the market."

  • That's what I said in my post...Corsair has 32nm ..which is higher/better than the 25nm on the M4...so we both agree on that. Not sure..how I was wrong. BTW - some reviews claim it is 34nm....

Edited by malikq86 - 1/12/12 at 7:24am
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The Marvell 88SS9174-BLD2 in Crucial's m4

Under the hood, er, chassis we have virtually the same controller as the C300. The m4 uses an updated revision of the Marvell 9174 (BLD2 vs. BKK2). Crucial wouldn't go into details as to what was changed, just to say that there were no major architectural differences and it's just an evolution of the same controller used in the C300.

Source: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4253/the-crucial-m4-micron-c400-ssd-review
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interesting...but would it be possible the Corsair is using an even more updated version of the BKK2 than the one mentioned in that article? if that even makes sense...

either way, if they don't mention what was changed...I assume it's not worth marketing....probably just a minor tweak (ie: not a selling point / big improvement worth advertising).
Edited by malikq86 - 1/12/12 at 5:11pm
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To Sean- I am excitedly awaiting a new order of my M4, first SSD for the fastest computer I've built to date. I'm not made of money by any stretch,and this was a big purchase for me. I can't thank you enough for the time and effort put into this guide. It was not only the best collaborated information I could find on Overclock.net, but on the entire internet. Buying, (and soon setting up) was such a breeze thanks to the education you provided. +Rep just doesn't say it man. So I hope this does. Good job. thumb.gif

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Originally Posted by LtStinger View Post

To Sean- I am excitedly awaiting a new order of my M4, first SSD for the fastest computer I've built to date. I'm not made of money by any stretch,and this was a big purchase for me. I can't thank you enough for the time and effort put into this guide. It was not only the best collaborated information I could find on Overclock.net, but on the entire internet. Buying, (and soon setting up) was such a breeze thanks to the education you provided. +Rep just doesn't say it man. So I hope this does. Good job. thumb.gif

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No problem, I just can't wait to get the time to properly finish it. biggrin.gif

For install just make sure you read this thread too if you haven't yet smile.gif

http://www.overclock.net/t/1156654/seans-windows-7-install-guide-optimization-for-ssds-hdds thumb.gif
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Got my new Crucial M4 128 GB installed and running.

SSD: Crucial M4 series
Capacity: 128 GB
Interface: Intel SATA 6 Gb/s (Intel Z68)


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I updated the OP a little. Mostly with the recommendations.
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I updated the OP a little. Mostly with the recommendations.

Thanks for the update on the Sandforce asynchronous/synchronous/toggle section. After doing extensive research here and elsewhere, I now believe there are some users (heavy cycle usage), myself included, who can get more out of using a toggle/sync SF SSD as their OS/apps drive. I do quite a bit of Vmware, productivity, and smaller development kind of things, and while there's always more risk with SF, I see no harm giving it a test drive. I'm going to keep my original m4 128gb for static programs, games, etc, but I think I'd eventually like to have the intensive stuff happening on a longer lasting 3xnm (5000 cycle rating) SF SSD like Patriot's Wildfire or something that comes out this spring/summer.

I reached most of my conclusions with your info, coupled with a quirky, yet very cool user from the Bit-Tech forums named PocketDemon, as well as some reading over on [H]. I also looked at anand's Storage Bench 2011 Heavy/Light workload quite a bit, as I feel my usage is somewhere in between.

Edit: Sean, do you think you could add Patriot's Pyro SE (Second Edition) to the front page? I'm sure you're aware that its a synchronous 2x nand SSD, but I think others may be unaware due to Patriot not releasing their middle tier SF-2281 SSD until late October. I know some people are sorta meh about SF, but its crazy to see people going crazy over an asynchronous Corsair Force 3 120gb for $120 deal, while completely ignoring a synchronous Pyro SE 60gb on sale for ~$70.
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Hello, I think I have a problem here. Look Ive tested my Kingston HyperX 240GB (Sata 6GBs, 520 read max, 480 write max) and the results on Crystal Disk Benchmark really suck, the results for this SSD should be higher, but Im kind of confused, I don't know whats happening. Look:

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When its supposed to have a performance like this!:

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Should be a problem with firmware or something?, I really hate spending money on this stuff just to get something that is not fulfiling my espectations.
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