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I've Crucial M4 128GB for quite some time ago and eventually reach to the point that I've to get bigger SSD in order to install more games on it. I'm aiming at 256GB, 840 EVO seems like a good drive to buy, and I do have a question.

Does any 256GB SSD out there have faster game loading time compare with M4 128GB?
Yea, but the difference is minor overall.
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My main game is planetside2 and it'll get constantly loading when deploy to different areas, I'm not saying that loading time for M4 is bad, it's fast indeed, but if there's a SSD that has faster loading time why not get it since I'm going to upgrade anyway.
The EVO will do what you need no problem.

Here is a comparison of a few drives with skyrim: http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1800/pg8/samsung-840-evo-solid-state-drive-review-load-times.html
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The only time you really need an SSD are with "bulky" games (like BF4 and its horrendous loading on HDDs) or with open-world games. Once you get in game though there is absolutely no difference among types of drives since the engine is stored in the RAM and the textures in the VRAM.
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What about hibernation (laptop) on SSD? Daily min 4Gb writing on SSD, how will that do to life span of SSD ?
And which is a life durabilty of a SSD (in years, for a normal user)?
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What about hibernation (laptop) on SSD? Daily min 4Gb writing on SSD, how will that do to life span of SSD ?
And which is a life durabilty of a SSD (in years, for a normal user)?

I love the ability to be lazy:

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Big numbers time:

A P/E cycle is an entire drive write
Most 20nm and 10nm MLC drives are rated for 3000, and Samsung's TLC drives are rated for 1000

SSDs all have NAND on their PCBs equaling a power of two (2^n) or 50% more than a power of two. For example, a 240GB drive has 2^8GB, or 256GB, on its PCB. A 180GB drive has 192GB. The remainder is used for spare blocks (when they become read-only) and/or for overprovisioning. The P/E rating is the manufacturer's absolute minimum and tests have indicated that drives can keep functioning a bit longer, though it's generally time to replace it when you see your first reallocated block.

So, as an example of the least durable drive on the market, we can take a 120GB Samsung 840
1000 cycles * 128GB / cycles = 128 000GB = 128TB

Most durable? Try a 960GB Crucial M500 with 1024GB on its PCB.
3000 cycles * 1024GB / cycle = 3 072 000GB = 3072TB = 3.072PB

Again, just the manufacturer's rating. Even the smallest 840s can take 30GB daily for a decade straight and M500s can take 100GB every single day for a century. You have nothing to worry about.

Those numbers are 7% lower than they should be because I used GB, not GiB (1000MB in a GB, 1000KB in a MB, etc; 1024MiB in a GiB, 1024 KiB...). I would disable hibernate, not for longevity issues, but because space is at a premium.
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I write about 30-50GB a day to my drive...you will be fine with 4GB a day lol. You will probably be doing 5-15GB normally.

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Tx for the reply, only I understand is:

"...So, as an example of the least durable drive on the market, we can take a 120GB Samsung 840
1000 cycles * 128GB / cycles = 128 000GB = 128TB

Most durable? Try a 960GB Crucial M500 with 1024GB on its PCB.
3000 cycles * 1024GB / cycle = 3 072 000GB = 3072TB = 3.072PB

Again, just the manufacturer's rating. Even the smallest 840s can take 30GB daily for a decade straight and M500s can take 100GB every single day for a century. You have nothing to worry about..."

and is enoguh.

But what if I Only install windows and some programs on SSD and for daily use only browser of internet, then I don't write anything on disc it all goes to RAM. So With that type of usin (if I don't download anything) I'm doing 0GB per day in a teory ?
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Windows does its own writes and some programs cache data, but yes, it will be extremely low.
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Anyone kind enough to recommend me a drive to order on short notice?

Ive been looking all day but I feel sorting by lowest cost per GB is going to get me in trouble.

I was looking at 840 EVO but remembering it is SLC nand is giving me the willies.

I dont know much about them 'mechanically' but I do re-install windows alot ( I play BF4 and it seems to be the only way to fix things sometimes, Thanks EA. ) among other things.

Ill be looking to spend under $300, lower cost and higher capacity would be amazing.
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EVOs tend to be fairly cheap in general. Don't worry about the life-span ever. M500s also go for pretty good prices. But I recommend the 480GB Seagate 600. $230 right now at Amazon and an overall excellent drive IMO.
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post #1930 of 2376
EVOs are TLC NAND, Crucial (and most other drives) MLC. SLC cost puts them in Enterprise drives.
You do want Toggle or Synchronous NAND.
You do not want Asynchronous NAND unless the cost is very low. (slower performance).
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