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Hi Sean,
Noob here. I just got my M4 64GB today. As you can notice, I created my account today. I had created the account with only one intention, and it is to Thank you for the write up. That's a great work dude.
No problem, glad I could help ya. smile.gif
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I am still learning the basics about SSDs. But I got a question when I was going through the SSD basics, referring to this lines
"One thing to notice is that with most 60/64GB SSDs is that their 120/128GB counterparts usually have twice the lifespan."

why is the lifespan based on capacity of the SSD, isn't it should be based on the avaliable empty space?

Appreciate your help.
I am currently revising the guide and I plan to add a little on it, but usually the larger drives use more NAND chips. Usually 120/128GB, 240/256GB, 480/512GB have double the amount of NAND chips as the 60/64GB variants. Therefore, because they have 2x more NAND chips and more usable space to wear, they have 2x the lifespan of their smaller counterparts. thumb.gif
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No problem, glad I could help ya. smile.gif
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I am still learning the basics about SSDs. But I got a question when I was going through the SSD basics, referring to this lines
"One thing to notice is that with most 60/64GB SSDs is that their 120/128GB counterparts usually have twice the lifespan."
why is the lifespan based on capacity of the SSD, isn't it should be based on the avaliable empty space?
Appreciate your help.
I am currently revising the guide and I plan to add a little on it, but usually the larger drives use more NAND chips. Usually 120/128GB, 240/256GB, 480/512GB have double the amount of NAND chips as the 60/64GB variants. Therefore, because they have 2x more NAND chips and more usable space to wear, they have 2x the lifespan of their smaller counterparts. thumb.gif

Thanks for clarifying and looking forward for the updates.
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Very nice guide smile.gif

One suggestion (nitpicking tongue.gif)
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Compressible data: AAACCCFFGBBRR could be compressed to A2C2F1B1R1, where the numbers are used to decompress the data.

A2C2F1GB1R1

You forgot G between F1 and B1
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What are your thoughts on the 120GB Sandisk Extremes Sean? (sorry have not read through all pages yet so dont know if it was answered)

I noticed they are not on the recommended list, but if what I read is correct they used to be their enterprise class drive and held up quite well. Also their speeds are up there with and surpass most other drives in their class.

Just asking because I bought another 5 of them when newegg ran their sale yesterday (built 2 pcs for a guy a month ago with them and he wants 3 more next month) Trying to decide whether to sell off the other 2 or possibly upgrade my 60gb sata II now instead of waiting for my ivy build in a month.

Either way I am sure I can offload them, but ill have them on hand in a couple of days and its pretty tempting. Ill run some benches for your charts with one but your feedback will help me a lot in deciding if i keep it or go with something else in a month.
    
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Very nice guide smile.gif

One suggestion (nitpicking tongue.gif)
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Compressible data: AAACCCFFGBBRR could be compressed to A2C2F1B1R1, where the numbers are used to decompress the data.

A2C2F1GB1R1

You forgot G between F1 and B1
Thanks. thumb.gif
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What are your thoughts on the 120GB Sandisk Extremes Sean? (sorry have not read through all pages yet so don't know if it was answered)

I noticed they are not on the recommended list, but if what I read is correct they used to be their enterprise class drive and held up quite well. Also their speeds are up there with and surpass most other drives in their class.

Just asking because I bought another 5 of them when newegg ran their sale yesterday (built 2 pcs for a guy a month ago with them and he wants 3 more next month) Trying to decide whether to sell off the other 2 or possibly upgrade my 60gb sata II now instead of waiting for my ivy build in a month.

Either way I am sure I can offload them, but ill have them on hand in a couple of days and its pretty tempting. Ill run some benches for your charts with one but your feedback will help me a lot in deciding if i keep it or go with something else in a month.

I am currently revising my recommended section. I am definitely adding the SanDisk Extreme to it. It is a pretty good drive.

If you have no issues with the SandForce controller bug go ahead and upgrade your current SSD if you like. More space is always a positive. biggrin.gif
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I am currently revising my recommended section. I am definitely adding the SanDisk Extreme to it. It is a pretty good drive.
If you have no issues with the SandForce controller bug go ahead and upgrade your current SSD if you like. More space is always a positive. biggrin.gif

So far it looks like they have had no SF bug issues and using custom firmware for the 2281 much like intels 520 and the fact that intel and the other manufacturers had time to work out the kinks before the sandisk extreme hit the open market im hoping they wont have any.

As far as space its nice and all but my main concern was moving to sata 3 speeds... That said the M4 speeds at this size has me still considering going with that on my next build and just dropping all these... thinking.gif idk I guess if i drop it in for a month I can still unload it if something better comes along or I change my mind due to unknown issues.

I really wouldnt mind the 240gb speeds of the SD E/M4/m3 but have no real justification for it as real world performance wont make that much of a diff on them and I have plenty of other storage atm and dont need my boot/game drive much bigger than the 60 I currently use.

Thanks for the feedback on the SD. Im going to keep an eye out on this thread a bit more often in the future.
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I bought a CnMemory 120 GB SSD and benched it just now to see if it's okay and how well it performs. Can anyone explain to me why it sais pciide - bad? Does that mean I have to set the Sata port in the BIOS differently? I am just testing it now in my HDD dockingstation. So when I would use it to put Windows on it I would use a different sata port and would set it to the correct setting.

Here are the screenshots. Can anyone else tell me something about it (apart from the fact it isn't a very fast SSD compared to others)?

c6b1u.png

242g6dh.png

Much appreciated.

How much faster would this SSD in particular be compared to my Caviar Black 1 TB?
 
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I bought a CnMemory 120 GB SSD and benched it just now to see if it's okay and how well it performs. Can anyone explain to me why it sais pciide - bad? Does that mean I have to set the Sata port in the BIOS differently? I am just testing it now in my HDD dockingstation. So when I would use it to put Windows on it I would use a different sata port and would set it to the correct setting.

Here are the screenshots. Can anyone else tell me something about it (apart from the fact it isn't a very fast SSD compared to others)?

c6b1u.png

242g6dh.png

Much appreciated.

How much faster would this SSD in particular be compared to my Caviar Black 1 TB?

It says pciide because the controller it is on is in IDE mode. It needs to be set to AHCI. IDE mode limits speeds.

As to your WD black...ROFL. Run AS SSD on your WD black and have fun with that.
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Got my sandisk drives in today and ended up only keeping one and sticking the rest in a customers current computers until i do his full builds next month.

Got home, loaded it in my pc and after a few complications that resulted from upgrading bios (*** asus mad.gif) was ready to test them.


eek.gif My drive is scoring horribly.

I ran as ssd and was like ***? My 4k write were about half what I had seen before and my acc times were all jacked too. I ened up running it again because I didnt trust it and then ran crystal mark with similar results...

552

I checked all over online again and even sent as ssd to the customer to have him check his drives which tested ~ 60mb/s higher in 4k writes, and his access times were all ~ .03ms lower (lowest values he got were .039 read on one drive and .201 write on another)


The rest of my scores were around the same, but im looking at some kind of issue here... Any suggestions on anything I might be missing? (eg any settings or HW issues I may have in sig build)

Plan on talking to support sometime tomorrow if I cant get this straitened out.
    
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What was your score before? Because that looks pretty normal for a 120GB SandForce drive...4K writes can be raised by disabling Intel Speedstep, C1E support and C-states in BIOS. If AMD disable any power saving features for the board.
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