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http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

This shows the 8150 at stock about even with the 2500k overall. Again overall, they both will excel in certin areas, but nether will bottleneck a gpu. Yes this is the 8150 not the 8120, but its the same chip same cooler so you should be able to overclock the 8120 to atleast that level on the stock cooler. If gaming is ALL you do, 2500k, but i myself like to run like a gazillion background programes all the time, making gaming (or any one cpu intensive task) impossable with 4cores. Im really considering building someing around the 8120 for my next build based on my good experience with the 6100.
 
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Sigh...... I assumed people on this site would be more intellagent informed and professional when i joined a couple of months ago. Oh well, your entitled to your opinions. Have you ever actully used one yourself? If you havn't please don't jump to imput something you don't really know.
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Go 6100 or 8120, but be sure to buy (or overclock) some high speed ram, one of bulldozers weaknesses is that like a gpu its really afected by ram speed, this is one of the reasons benchmarks very so much from 'it sucks' to 'as fast as the 2600k'. Ram can make or break it. Also, consider dual booting into windows 8 beta when the public version comes out in feb. . Microsoft has made patchs, but its still made for windows 8. All in all, it actully alot better then alot of reviews say. Very future proof.
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Here:
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html
This shows the 8150 at stock about even with the 2500k overall. Again overall, they both will excel in certin areas, but nether will bottleneck a gpu. Yes this is the 8150 not the 8120, but its the same chip same cooler so you should be able to overclock the 8120 to atleast that level on the stock cooler. If gaming is ALL you do, 2500k, but i myself like to run like a gazillion background programes all the time, making gaming (or any one cpu intensive task) impossable with 4cores. Im really considering building someing around the 8120 for my next build based on my good experience with the 6100.

why are you recommending an 8120 and talking about 8120/8150 performance when you,yourself said if you haven't used one,DO not to jump in and give input about it?
    
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This shows the 8150 at stock about even with the 2500k overall. Again overall, they both will excel in certin areas, but nether will bottleneck a gpu. Yes this is the 8150 not the 8120, but its the same chip same cooler so you should be able to overclock the 8120 to atleast that level on the stock cooler. If gaming is ALL you do, 2500k, but i myself like to run like a gazillion background programes all the time, making gaming (or any one cpu intensive task) impossable with 4cores. Im really considering building someing around the 8120 for my next build based on my good experience with the 6100.

The 2500K can multi-task like a beast too and beat any of the Bulldozer CPUs aside from render-heavy programs. Running multiple programs just requires more RAM, but even 4gb is enough for a gamer. I typically run 5-15 programs at a time and sometimes even two games and have yet to see slowdowns with 4gb of RAM.

As the person mentioned above, please don't try to give input when your knowledge is very limited. I have done that too many times here and gotten my ass burned. wink.gif
    
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Sigh...... I assumed people on this site would be more intellagent informed and professional when i joined a couple of months ago. Oh well, your entitled to your opinions. Have you ever actully used one yourself? If you havn't please don't jump to imput something you don't really know.

It's a forum, people are going to give their opinions. Kind of like you giving your opinion that the users of this site are unintelligent, very unprofessional of you by the way. rolleyes.gif

Also, have you used a decent sandybridge chip like the 2500K or 2600K?
By your own logic you shouldn't say the BD chip is great until you've tried its competition.
If you have used them and saw no difference, fair enough but statistics don't lie and the SB chips are superior for gaming.

I know because I spend a couple of hours a day reading on OCN and any comparison I've seen including ones where they tried faster memory, NB frequency, the scheduler fix and disabling a core per module puts the FX chips below the 2*00K chips for gaming. I don't need to use one to compare the figures.

It's great that you like your chip, I think my i3 was a great buy and they play games well but I wouldn't claim it to be equal to Sandybridge because it isn't.

How they do in passmark doesn't dictate how well they play games.
Having both an i3 540 and a Q6600 in my house I can tell you that even though the Q6600 beats the i3 in heavily multi-threaded apps, the i3 will beat the quad in terms of gaming performance when both are overclocked to 50% above stock.
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Ive used the 6100. Basicly just posted that to show it can do well in benchmarks. The 6100 inpressed me, so yes i have actully used bulldozer! if anyone who has used 2500k would like to post about the 2600k feel free, you know sb. I havnt personaly owned an sb, but ive owned a 1st gen i5 for awhile.
 
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Ive used the 6100. Basicly just posted that to show it can do well in benchmarks. The 6100 inpressed me, so yes i have actully used bulldozer! if anyone who has used 2500k would like to post about the 2600k feel free, you know sb. I havnt personaly owned an sb, but ive owned a 1st gen i5 for awhile.

Listen to Schmukley, he's owned chips with both architectures and said straight out that the FX4100 "sucked". That CPU-Z screenie also showed it at 5GHz so overclocking probably doesn't fix the performance entirely.
I never said you hadn't tried BD, I said you have probably only tried one of the CPUs you are comparing and that you shouldn't comment because your opinion is that you should only post if you have first hand experience with what you are commenting on and you don't.
If you haven't tried a 2500K, how can you say the bulldozer CPU is as good as it? All you can say is that it plays games well, not compare it to the other chips that you haven't tried.

Speaking of the i5 750. Anandtech says it beats the 1090T in games with both at stock, the 2500K has slightly better IPC than the i5 750 and in that comparison turbo would be topping out at 3.2GHz but not on all cores.
This gives the 1090T a higher overall clockspeed than the i5 750 in that comparison but the 750 still wins

Since the 4 module BD doesn't overclock much better than SB, even if it does match the 1090T clock for clock it will likely still lose out to the 2500K.
Factor in the power consumption of BD compared to the 2500K when both are overclocked and you should have a genuine reason to buy the 2500K over the bulldozer chip.
You can get away with a lower quality board with the 2500K as it draws less power and needs less robust power delivery circuitry.
It will also overclock nicely on something like a 212+ so you don't need an expensive cooler to get a lot out of it.

EDIT: And don't throw LN2 results at me, they're impressive but irrelevant if performance in games is the focus of your build.
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Any current CPU will make most people happy, but when it comes to suggesting something that suits the OP's needs, a PhenomII Deneb or Thuban will bring much better price/performance than a Bulldozer and I find it strange that others think otherwise. There are tons of reviews and benchmarks that prove this, not to mention tons of personal testing done by OCN members. I'm an AMD fan, but even I have trouble recommending Bulldozer to anyone.

Sure a 2500k and above will net a lot better performance, but it also means a new motherboard, something which is out of the OP's budget. However, selling his Gigabyte 990FX board and getting a P67/Z68 board for a similar price would fit his budget perfectly.
    
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Any current CPU will make most people happy, but when it comes to suggesting something that suits the OP's needs, a PhenomII Deneb or Thuban will bring much better price/performance than a Bulldozer and I find it strange that others think otherwise. There are tons of reviews and benchmarks that prove this, not to mention tons of personal testing done by OCN members. I'm an AMD fan, but even I have trouble recommending Bulldozer to anyone.
Sure a 2500k and above will net a lot better performance, but it also means a new motherboard, something which is out of the OP's budget. However, selling his Gigabyte 990FX board and getting a P67/Z68 board for a similar price would fit his budget perfectly.

You're right, sorry OP for going a bit off-topic.
If you've already got an AMD board, a 960T is probably your best bet for gaming performance.
I wouldn't pay the extra to get Sandybridge if it means buying a new motherboard.
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Any current CPU will make most people happy, but when it comes to suggesting something that suits the OP's needs, a PhenomII Deneb or Thuban will bring much better price/performance than a Bulldozer and I find it strange that others think otherwise. There are tons of reviews and benchmarks that prove this, not to mention tons of personal testing done by OCN members. I'm an AMD fan, but even I have trouble recommending Bulldozer to anyone.
Sure a 2500k and above will net a lot better performance, but it also means a new motherboard, something which is out of the OP's budget. However, selling his Gigabyte 990FX board and getting a P67/Z68 board for a similar price would fit his budget perfectly.

I actually thought about doing that. I found a mobo that's the almost the same as mine except intel version.

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You're right, sorry OP for going a bit off-topic.
If you've already got an AMD board, a 960T is probably your best bet for gaming performance.
I wouldn't pay the extra to get Sandybridge if it means buying a new motherboard.

why a 960t over say: 1090t or 1100t ?

The biggest thing is finding a buyer for my mobo, then finding a nice used intel chip. The time it would take to do that vs. just buying an amd chip at this point.... I think I would sell if I knew there was a buyer right away. I've only installed put the mobo in the case, hasn't been powered up.

Which leads to another problem: if I ever wanted to sell something on OC I have to get my brother to do it with his account because I don't have enough rep....that's frustrating.mad.gif
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K, im getting a 8120 soon and my cosin is getting a dell with a 2500, so when ive tryed both i might post again. The guy who said the 4100 sucked still didnt anwser my memory question, but whatever. We were running windows 8 dp as well, so on win7 cant comment, maybe it does suck there, but in windows 8 it was better then i thought it would be based on the reviews.
 
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