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I'd love to see that.
Just imagine how epic it would look like, a monkey being accellerated to light speed, and then it explodes and the hypervelocity monkey guts destroy entire planets.

Ahahaha tongue.gif
I must admit that sounds like fun.
    
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Yeah, okay, and a "Parsec" is a unit of distance as well. rolleyes.gif Ever watch Star Wars? Yeah, Han Solo made the Kessel run in 12 Parsecs! tongue.gif

A parsec is a distance, 3.26 light years or 3.08568025 × 10^16 meters.

Parallax is primarily used as a trigonometric form of distance gauging of stars that move in relation to Earth's position. There is a finite distance that can be discovered with this method. Sec in parsec comes from second, which in this case is not time but a degree of a unit circle.

Parsec is inversely related to the degree shift of the star as it goes back and forth in Celestial sky. The closer a star is, the larger the degree of change in the night sky as we move in our orbit, and inversely, the lower the parsec (distance.) So stars that move a good degree from position A to B to A, are closer to us. The stars that appear stationary are very far away, so far away, that we can't discern any movement in relation to our orbit.
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When they thought we couldn't break the sound barrier they didn't have the understanding we have now.
Not saying it's impossible, just unlikely.

Don't worry, it is 100% impossible for us to accelerate to the speed of light speed by any conventional and theoretical means.

However, raw thrust is not the only means of transportation. We will end up using gravity to fold space and simply impulse our way over a small distance, unbend space, and voila, we traveled a finite, yet, long distance in an hour that would have taken us years at light speed.

Its possible because this occurs naturally in space. Objects that travel around super massive black holes, like the one believe to be at the center of our galaxy.

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I think we're just going to go round and round on this. I guess the way I'm looking at it is like this. Science is constantly changing, new concepts are being unearthed and sometimes shattering conventional/tradtionally held understanding. So to use our current understanding of science to base conclusions about future scientific achievements, is to me at least, a bit off-base. Not everything is wrong in regards to science/physics, I'm not saying we understand nothing at all. All I'm saying is that our understanding of laws and events in general has changed over time, and it's likely that our current understanding of everything will change as well. So in 200 years, they will look back and say "well, they just didn't understand the science behind light-speed travel like we do now" or something.

Somethings do change, somethings do not. 1 + 1 is still 2 for example in Number Theory. Things that were wrong or slightly off tend to change. You assume they are wrong now, yet you don't bother looking at the mechanics of "why" they think that the travel is not possible.
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The only "foreseeable way" (and I say Foreseeable VERY loosely) we could ever step foot on very distant planets like the keplar would be to use the star trek approach of teleportation. IMO

It has already been proven that teleportation is possible without defying our current knowledge and laws of physics. Scientists have successfully teleported a single molecule from one side of a room to the other by breaking the molecule down to the atomic level scanning it, then sending it using light and rebuilding it somewhere else.

Here's some info:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3811785.stm

Once the technology is perfected in the very very very distant future, it would be completely possible (IMO) to send an unmanned automated space station towards the keplar at a reasonable speed and wait for it to land and and set up a teleportation data link between the two planets.

There are of course several drawbacks to this system including destroying yourself in the atomic scanning process before being rebuilt somewhere else, but it is the only way I can personally see how to send a being or an object at speeds relative to the speed of light.

now beam me up scotty! biggrin.gif

(could be that I also watch too much of the trek and I am going insane tongue.gif )
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There are of course several drawbacks to this system including destroying yourself in the atomic scanning process before being rebuilt somewhere else, but it is the only way I can personally see how to send a being or an object at speeds relative to the speed of light.

Too bad sending a human being on it would mean that your very consciousness is destroyed and copied, and then rebuilt. That would mean that you would essentially die. The copy that resulted will think that everything went just fine.
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Too bad sending a human being on it would mean that your very consciousness is destroyed and copied, and then rebuilt. That would mean that you would essentially die. The copy that resulted will think that everything went just fine.

And we don't even understand consciousness enough to explain it.

If we ever developed the capacity to scan and rebuild on a molecular level, you could just teleport incredibly sick people across the room and use computer aided correction in the reassembly to rid them of any disease. Heck, you could make them 10 years younger, a different sex, 2 feet taller, whatever. Teleport a prisoner into a body without arms so he wasn't a threat. "You'll get them back when you are released".
    
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Too bad sending a human being on it would mean that your very consciousness is destroyed and copied, and then rebuilt. That would mean that you would essentially die. The copy that resulted will think that everything went just fine.

And we don't even understand consciousness enough to explain it.

If we ever developed the capacity to scan and rebuild on a molecular level, you could just teleport incredibly sick people across the room and use computer aided correction in the reassembly to rid them of any disease. Heck, you could make them 10 years younger, a different sex, 2 feet taller, whatever. Teleport a prisoner into a body without arms so he wasn't a threat. "You'll get them back when you are released".

Hmm movie idea?
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Yeah, okay, and a "Parsec" is a unit of distance as well. rolleyes.gif Ever watch Star Wars? Yeah, Han Solo made the Kessel run in 12 Parsecs! tongue.gif

There is speculation that The Kessel run involves a tract of space between various high gravity bodies, so ships with the more powerful engines would be able to take a more direct route, shortening the distance that needed to be traveled.
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I have just thought of something.
Didn't we go to this planet to film Avatar?

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You guys make me wanna go play my Mass Effect games again.
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