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Laying within a habitability zone does not automatically imply habitability.
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Up until around the middle of last century it was thought that travel beyond the speed of sound was not possible. Not to say what is currently accepted is wrong...but given sciences track record you never really know. thumb.gif

Man made projectiles have been exceeding the speed of sound since at least the first long barreled flintlocks, and possibly in steam cannon experiements by the ancient greeks. The tips of bullwhips also exceed the speed of sound when cracked.

Thus far no phenomena, with the possible exception of recent neutrino observations, has ever been observed as exceeding the speed of light.

They are fundamentally different things.
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This is wrong in so many ways.
1st thing, As the energy is used to move an object towards the speed of light, the mass increases to infinity. Which means, it would require an unimaginable amount energy to propel a ship which would initially weight many tons and would only become heavier and heavier the faster you travel.
2nd thing. People cannot travel the speed of light, only close to it (99.99%)
3rd. Time is relative in Light travel (if possible) and you would not be able to calculate the amount of time experienced by the Passengers in relation to the people on earth.
Essentially, a 600 light year trip traveling near the speed of light, when completed...dozens of thousands of years would have passed on earth.
On the ship, the passengers are moving extremely, extremely slow compared to anybody on any planet bound to gravity.

Actually, Devilmaypoop is largely correct.

Your first two points are right, but he never contradicted these things.

Your third point is mostly wrong. The relative difference can be calculated, and if the space craft traveled 600 light-years while moved close to the speed of light relative to earth, just over 600 years would have passed on earth.
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traveling at the speed of light would have some effect on your body i presume


and i bet it wouldnt be good
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The first thing that comes to mind is if we get there and it is a dud planet void of life I wonder who would be getting fired over that. mad.gif

The second thing is that it would be 600 years and some change traveling at 99.999% the speed of light. The cool thing is if we could somehow divide the time required to travel that distance by using space which has been proven to move faster than light. If we could be going 99.999% the speed of light somehow and enter say a wormhole that could be maybe multiply our speed by a factor of 6. For example, traveling at 6c would require 100 years. If this was even possible which right now isn't because we have found the way to create a wormhole wouldn't work. The person on the spacecraft would only age 100 years while 600 years passed on Earth. thumb.gif

The problem first is creating someway to propel to the speed of light, and then create a wormhole, or a very massive gravitational point that bends space-time so much that both sides connect. This is so highly improbable that I seriously doubt it could work.tongue.gif

The most possible way is create a generation ship, that can sustain a population for many generations, or even just a generation ship that does some type of cryogenic freezing that would stop aging of the passengers while traveling the distance.

I would think that getting to speed of light would be easier than try to navigate and not blow up while traveling at the speed of light. Think of running into a planet or just another object at the speed you wouldn't even be turned into dust you would be turned into pure energy on crashing, which would be unavoidable because there is no reaction time going that fast.

Well that covers my 2cents.gif.
Edited by adramalech707 - 12/5/11 at 11:22pm
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u guys are forgetting gravity.
zero gravity for long periods of time is very bad for the human body minerals in the bones waste away, muscle is also wastes away. so unless we can build something that creates gravity (which i dont think we ever have) were screwed so many variables we needa sort out first not just propulsion???wink.gif
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u guys are forgetting gravity.
zero gravity for long periods of time is very bad for the human body minerals in the bones waste away, muscle is also wastes away. so unless we can build something that creates gravity (which i dont think we ever have) were screwed so many variables we needa sort out first not just propulsion???wink.gif

not only this . but how about how the humab body reacts to light speed travel if we will ever be cappable of creating some epic propulsion system
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propulsion in space doesnt have as much affect its the acceleration thats the damaging part, but yeah another variable
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u guys are forgetting gravity.
zero gravity for long periods of time is very bad for the human body minerals in the bones waste away, muscle is also wastes away. so unless we can build something that creates gravity (which i dont think we ever have) were screwed so many variables we needa sort out first not just propulsion???wink.gif

Umm I don't want to burst your bubble but there is a thing called artificial gravity created by either rotating like the space station, or linear motion like a space craft at the speed of light would create artifical gravity since the mass of the object would reach infinity, or by using diamagnetism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_gravity
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Ideally, the ship would accelerate at a constant 1G the entire trip.
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Now all we have to do is make it there and rape it of all its resources, huzzah!
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Light travel would only be possible if the ship with which you are traveling has its own gravitational field.
Edited by bgtrance - 12/6/11 at 12:41am
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