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If I win the 2.5k dream rig would be folding. What PPD out of this.
i7 2600k 4.5ish GHz
GTX 580 Lightning
GTX 570
I'd make a folding box from those, basically extra hardware as I only need 1 of the 580s I've put in the wishlist for gaming.
I was thinking in the neighborhood of
i7 2600k No clue!
580 25k?
570 20k?
Been so long since I've folded.

My stock 580 gets 17.3K with the -advmethods flag set.

My 2600K @4.5 GHz gets about:
*23K to 29K for SMP in Windows
*25K to 32K in a Linux VM
29K to 35K in native Linux

*This is with the 580 folding at the same time. PPD is a little higher when the CPU is by itself.
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random questions kinda related to PPD tongue.gif:

does anyone know how much better a 3960X is compared to a 3930K at folding, is it worth the $400 premium? (I'm guessing in most cases no...?) not at stock, but does it overclock way higher?

and i'm guessing ivy bridge won't be as good as 2011 either, since why would intel want to compete with themselves...

Isn't AMD also working on bettering Bulldozer (like upping their transistor count or something)? wonder how much better those will do at folding then their current versions.


and more on topic, we could always do a fundraiser to build a monster monster MONSTER rig/farm for some deserving folder (like Z tongue.gif*), as long as they don't mind the extra electricity consumption?

*I can just imagine Zs face if we do this:

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Edited by Sainesk - 12/9/11 at 9:27am
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the 3930k may be able to get you a slightly higher overclock, but the price isn't worth it for folding.

ivy bridge will be a slight increase in performance over sandy bridge, but because they will be all quads, it won't beat sb-e. Ib-e next year however, on 2011, should be a nice upgrade for a sb-e now.

amd is working no a new line now, but honestly, I'd say go intel. They have proved to be better folders.
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3930k will overclock the same. My chip can boot same speed at less volts than most of the 3960x chips on the leader boards.
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intel bins their chips, so the 3960x should be better. It comes down to how well the motherboard/ram are working with the overclock, and how well the person chose their settings.
Edited by hoth17 - 12/9/11 at 9:53am
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I sure hope the -bigadv issue gets resolved quickly. I have a 2500k but have never received a bigadv WU when i have tried to through vmware. I have been keeping an eye on the servers and they do not look like they are even giving bidadv WU out

The bigadv issue is resolving in jan, IIRC. only people with 16+ cores get to do bigadv. the 2500k/2600k systems are no longer bleeding edge systems. They're mainstream.
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But the cake is a lie. sadsmiley.gif

It was mentioned we have just under 800 active folders. Yet we have over 7000 inactive folders. What can we do to bring them back active. I like the idea about some possible changes on rep to get credit for folding. That could be a good thing. thumb.gif

We have the adopt a folder program. How is that going??

Folding prizes: I know we have nice prizes but at the same time when you look at the programs both (H) and EVGA does from discounts, free cards etc... as part of folding prizes etc... how do we overcome that?

At the same time, we don't want to guilt people into doing this do we????

The banner at the top: We push BF3 as one of the 4 panels. Why isn't folding in a panel???

Making folding more prominent would be cool.

Needs a tagline - Are you a fat lazy slob gamer? Want to contribute to society without getting off your fat @@? Don't! Let your computer do it for you! Your mom will never notice the difference on your electric bill.
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I might give folding a try when I finish my new build (GTX 580 3GB, i5-2500k hoping to oc around4.5GHz), under OCN as a thanks for the help I've been given (and will be given before finishing, I am sure) My only concern is seeing things like $1000 electric bill. If it really eats up that much power (or increases my current electric bill by much at all, currently pay about $60 a month on average) I can't really afford to run it.

Ok... you'd need a computer that pulls over 11kW at the plug to hit $1k a month (at $.12/kWh).
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I would fold but it just seems kind of pointless IMO.

Make my hardware work hard 24/7 for no reason really, just losing money.

And the power bill :/

it's medical research - it might benefit you directly in the not too distant future.

Folding 24/7 on my Q6700 & 6950 pulls 300W at the plug. If I can do math, (($.12/kWh)*(24h)*(31d)*(.3kW)) that's about $27 a month.
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I could probably help, but would it be wise risking my sigrig and possibly damaging components? I know I'm probably overreacting I just would rather a 1k piece of machinery not get hurt lol.

Uh, wut?
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Is it possible to run a 4p motherboard with only 2 cpus? If i bought a 4p motherboard i wouldn't be able to afford 4 cpus at the same time.

or 1, or 3. you can only utilize the ram in the slots with CPUs near them though (no cpu, no memory controller)
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or 1, or 3. you can only utilize the ram in the slots with CPUs near them though (no cpu, no memory controller)

where are you getting that information? You should be able to run 2 cpus as well.
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I think your mixed up a little hoth17, 3930k is the $600 cpu. 3960x is the Extreme chip. You will be able to get the same overclock on both with good water cooling. You won't see anything better from the 3960x until your using phase or ln2. They run real warm. I'd rather spend the extra $400 on a awesome water setup and keep the 3930k cool.
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*I see I posted the wrong name in my previous post. rolleyes.gif Fixing that now

I agree that you will see about the same results. However, theoretically, the 3960x should be slightly better. However, intel bins their chips
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Based on the test result of class testing processors with the same capabilities are put into the same transporting trays. This process is called "binning," a process with which many Tom's Hardware readers will be familiar. Binning determines the maximum operating frequency of a processor, and batches are divided and sold according to stable specifications.
So, the 3960k should be able to achieve a slightly better overclock. Obviously this is not always the case. As I said before, it comes down to the overclocker and the other hardware.

Also as I said before, not worth it for folding.
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where are you getting that information? You should be able to run 2 cpus as well.

I've seen it referenced on sever board spec sheets - max ram is related to how many cpus are installed.

Think about it, or look at the traces for the ram.

its a little different on MCH systems, but not as much as you'd think.

if you want proof:
http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/servers/options/tool/hp_memtool.html
for example:
ProLiant ML350 G6
To exceed 96GB of ram, you need a second cpu.

Try it and see.

If you max all the ram slots on a 4P board, and only install 1P, the memory in the slots near the missing CPUs will not show up.
 
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