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random questions kinda related to PPD tongue.gif:
does anyone know how much better a 3960X is compared to a 3930K at folding, is it worth the $400 premium? (I'm guessing in most cases no...?) not at stock, but does it overclock way higher?
and i'm guessing ivy bridge won't be as good as 2011 either, since why would intel want to compete with themselves...

I would suggest that the 3930K will be better value than the 3960X for PPD...I dont think the extreme version would put out much more ppd considering its double the price.

As for ivy bridge, I would probably put a sizable wager on it being just as good if not better than 2011. Dont forget this technology prob wont be out for 3 if not 6 months yet...that gives Intel a good enough window for people ot buy the new 2011 socket and then start fresh and make new sales with ivy bridge.
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I thought the idea behind the thread was to motivate more folks to start folding, but thanks for your input.

Just a clarification. While a 2600k is a big hitter now come Jan 16th they could likely be knocked out of folding -bigadv WUs. It may not be wise to invest money now in a rig that will not perform at its current levels in a month. I think he was just trying to warn you about the upcoming changes.
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Obviously we will take everyone we can get. However, as a whole we need to start pushing bigger hardware as to not fall be hind the curve. Every point helps, and we fold for a cure; however, people need to reaize there are systems with more than one processor. Instead of buying a 2600k or gpu farms for folding, people need to know there are better solutions.
But, it is not to say we don't want i3s and 2600ks, we just want to people to remeber there is more out there.
OCN is glad to have you folding. thumb.gif

What needs to happen though is a balance. Not everybody can afford a dedicated folding rig or even to fold 24/7, and like you said, every point does count. Sometimes it can feel as if anybody not running the biggest and the best isn't welcome, so while advocating and educating about newer and more powerful hardware would provide a great boost, encouraging even casual folders to get in on the action will be beneficial.

Right now my laptop would get about 1.5k ppd if I folded on my GPU and CPU 24/7, but I cannot afford to fold 24/7, so let's low ball it and say 500PPD. 100 casual folders at this rate would be bringing in 50KPPD for the team. Encourage those who can and will fold hardcore to get the newest and the best hardware, and encourage those with lesser specs to contribute as well. That's the beauty of collective computing, you don't all need to be giants to get something done, even the little guy can contribute.

Seeing a lot of the other numbers getting thrown around I almost quit folding after my first WU was completed, but what can I say, I'm stubborn. I guess the point of this rant is don't get tunnel vision. OCN has a good size user base, we need to take advantage of that and encourage both the upgrading to better hardware AND the support of lesser systems being put to a good cause.
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What needs to happen though is a balance. Not everybody can afford a dedicated folding rig or even to fold 24/7, and like you said, every point does count. Sometimes it can feel as if anybody not running the biggest and the best isn't welcome, so while advocating and educating about newer and more powerful hardware would provide a great boost, encouraging even casual folders to get in on the action will be beneficial.
Right now my laptop would get about 1.5k ppd if I folded on my GPU and CPU 24/7, but I cannot afford to fold 24/7, so let's low ball it and say 500PPD. 100 casual folders at this rate would be bringing in 50KPPD for the team. Encourage those who can and will fold hardcore to get the newest and the best hardware, and encourage those with lesser specs to contribute as well. That's the beauty of collective computing, you don't all need to be giants to get something done, even the little guy can contribute.
Seeing a lot of the other numbers getting thrown around I almost quit folding after my first WU was completed, but what can I say, I'm stubborn. I guess the point of this rant is don't get tunnel vision. OCN has a good size user base, we need to take advantage of that and encourage both the upgrading to better hardware AND the support of lesser systems being put to a good cause.

Indeed, every little helps, and people who start small may have more income shortly (i.e. students) and be willing to invest more later. If everyone on ocn folded 1-2kppd we'd be dominating.

I think it would really good to find out why ex-folders have quit. Maybe a mission for someone with lots of time to PM folders who have points but are sitting on a 0ppd and find out why they quit (maybe start with the highest points first).
     
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Just a clarification. While a 2600k is a big hitter now come Jan 16th they could likely be knocked out of folding -bigadv WUs. It may not be wise to invest money now in a rig that will not perform at its current levels in a month. I think he was just trying to warn you about the upcoming changes.

Yeah I was aware, just thought he came out like a smart ass.
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Indeed, every little helps, and people who start small may have more income shortly (i.e. students) and be willing to invest more later. If everyone on ocn folded 1-2kppd we'd be dominating.
I think it would really good to find out why ex-folders have quit. Maybe a mission for someone with lots of time to PM folders who have points but are sitting on a 0ppd and find out why they quit (maybe start with the highest points first).

This is what I was getting at, I had stopped for awhile after I sold my I7 rig, every little bit helps even if after Jan things change.
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Just a clarification. While a 2600k is a big hitter now come Jan 16th they could likely be knocked out of folding -bigadv WUs. It may not be wise to invest money now in a rig that will not perform at its current levels in a month. I think he was just trying to warn you about the upcoming changes.

yeah... It will still do hefty smp... and hopefully smp will get a boost.
but just making sure you were not expecting to be able to run bigadv on those 2600ks.

While its not set in stone... the reason for the change is to knock the 2600ks out of the running...
Stanford said they don't turn them around quick enough... as this is the reason for the change...to take the i7 single hex and 2600k out of bigadv.

I would say they probably won't be able to do it in January.
I hate for people to invest money and it not turn out like they expect.
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Yeah the 2600's should still be able to put up some decent points i'd hope.

No, if I was going to drop some money in a dedicated folding rig, it wouldn't be on the 1155 platform, just happen to be upgrading the CPU at home and at work.
post #359 of 511
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Just a clarification. While a 2600k is a big hitter now come Jan 16th they could likely be knocked out of folding -bigadv WUs. It may not be wise to invest money now in a rig that will not perform at its current levels in a month. I think he was just trying to warn you about the upcoming changes.

They will be out of the bigadv game come january, if stanford does what they say they will. As for folding, a 2600k will still stomp all over SMP WUs. My 8 core E5420 system barely pulls off 10k ppd. Pretty sure a 2600 can do around 30kPPD, and that's less than 70% of the energy usage (80W TDP x2 vs 95W TDP x1).
 
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And with all that said, I'd hold off on building a F@H rig right now. Fold on what you have now and see what things look like in a few weeks. You'll be be able to better plan your purchases when the -bigadv changes are finalized.
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