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Since im at university and don't have much space, i've been using my 720p 30" Samsung TV as a monitor simply because I don't have room for a TV and a monitor. The effect of sitting 2feet from a 30" screen is quite impressive, but the low resolution is kinda bad...

My question is, if I were to change to a smaller 22" with 120hz and low response time, would I be gaining a siginificant advantage in games like Counterstrike? With CS:GO due next year, i'm thinking of getting back into the competitive side of the game again and I'd like my equipment to be suitable for that.

To summarize

Does 120Hz mean I will see someone peek faster than if I was using 60Hz?

Will moving targets be smoother and easier to hit?

Would my input lag be significantly lower?

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Not really an advantage with 120Hz, personally i feel that's a myth. Most gaming advantages come from network latency.
 
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the 120hz is to reduce motion blur you aren't going to see someone faster as persistence of vision in people occurs at 24-30hz thus the human eye can not register changes faster than that. theoretically it reduces latency but by only 1/120th of a second, as Mhill said most all latency comes from network. It really is mostly a marketing gimmick unless you are a cat (they can detect up to about 60Hz) but I doubt that you are a cat.
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Personally I am ready to try 120Hz out. I will be selling my 27" BenQ and making the switch to the X20T when it comes out in January. Sure I will be sacrificing 3" but from everyone I have spoken to they are delighted with 120Hz gaming and the 3D gaming is a nice bonus too. I have a 580 headed my way to drive it too so I am bound to see a nice performance jump in all areas. I agree that network latency is the biggest factor in online gaming but we shouldn't discount input lag and response times. V-Sync is also a big contributor to input lag FYI. In regard to 120Hz smoothness being a myth and inperceptible, I think I would like to reserve judgement for myself. Alot of people say its a myth without having even spent anytime using a 120Hz monitor. The fact is the demand is there and if you find you are disappointed with your purchase you can always sell it on at little or no lost. If you in the UK like myself you can even use distance selling rules to return the item quibble free within two weeks if purchased online.
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Hertz makes no significance as to if a screen has input lag. Some 60hz screens have low input lag, some 120hz screens have high input lag. Same goes for ghosting.

What 120hz as a general concept does is double the update rate compared to 60hz monitors. Essentially, allowing for higher FPS than 60 to be displayed. It makes moving images appear quite smooth, and is very enjoyable as well as freeing. To gain the benefits, however, you need to get more than 60FPS average.
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the 120hz is to reduce motion blur you aren't going to see someone faster as persistence of vision in people occurs at 24-30hz thus the human eye can not register changes faster than that. theoretically it reduces latency but by only 1/120th of a second, as Mhill said most all latency comes from network. It really is mostly a marketing gimmick unless you are a cat (they can detect up to about 60Hz) but I doubt that you are a cat.

120hz is -not- to remove motion blur and human eyes do NOT have a fixed refresh rate "at around 24-30hz". This is a myth and been beaten to death multiple times.

And refresh rate has less effect on latency than electronics induced input lag with monitors.

And it is most certainly not an advertising gimmick. To see that, you'd just need to spend 5 seconds moving your cursor around: It's not a smooth trail, it's multiple instances of the cursor appearing after each other every 16.7ms provided you have a 60hz display. You do see that. The cursor movement is not a smooth trail. It would be if you couldn't see above 60fps. This effect is also on 120hz, but to a lesser extent. This example alone disproves the "human eye only updates 24-30hz" theory.
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i am set at 1080p 24 hertz and look is great but one issue you ll face led probably wont be able to keep up in most screen that is why they up to 120 or 240 but 1080p 24 is here to stay 60 hertz is just too ressource hog and wont get better with bigger screen.by the way 1080p 24 hertz take less ressource then 720 p 60 hertz so you might want to try that see if it does the job might need to fiddle with some game setting you ll have to check!remember that 1080p 24 hertz is what ps3 use it is what blue ray use!
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I love my screen, but I don't know if you can find them anymore. Read all the reviews and find a 120Hz screen that has been proven to have minimal lag. I went from a 2ms gray2gray, 60Hz asus monitor to this LG. You'll see the difference.

You need those reviews where they put the display in question side by side with a crt with the timer running.
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Once you go 120hz you won't want to go back...
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