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have you upgraded to the lastest beta drives? 290.36 i was at a similar bout till i went and got those and now i am at 60+ solid with 560ti's but same monitor resolution
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i had issues with crossfire on one of my rigs. i would bet sli is the same. its just the game not making good use of 2 cards.
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have you upgraded to the lastest beta drives? 290.36 i was at a similar bout till i went and got those and now i am at 60+ solid with 560ti's but same monitor resolution

Ive got 290.36 from the beta section on nvidia site already, no difference =/
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Ok so, just monitored CPU and GPU whilst playing, my cpu cores hover around 70%
and my gpu about 30-40%

So nothing maxed out, i really dont get it, i take it its just the game?
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Your CPU limited. Skyrim doesn't use 4 cores so when you see around 70% usage that is all Skyrim will use. That is your limiting factor and why you saw no improvement.

If you can OC your chip further you will see improvement!

As an example Im also CPU limited. I see no FPS difference between No AA and 8XAA because I have so much headroom on my GPU.
Note I have read that "Shadows" are CPU dependent and thats why ultra shadows is crippling FPS on ppl.
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Ok so, just monitored CPU and GPU whilst playing, my cpu cores hover around 70%
and my gpu about 30-40%
So nothing maxed out, i really dont get it, i take it its just the game?

each core is at 70%? or your whole CPU is? That is very important, I think I've read somewhere that Skyrim does not utilize 4 cores. It might have been fixed since the release though, but I am not certain. It is odd that neither the CPU or GPU are maxed.
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The graphics engine in this game is horribly optimized. Easily get 60fps with vsync constant. Then a drop to 20fps out of nowhere inside buildings and dungeons.
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Ok so ive just ran battlefield 3 online and, since going from a 285 to 295, no difference at all =/

I thought maybe its a CPU bottleneck but tried upping the eye candy as it shouldnt effect the FPS if its only making the gpu work harder, but got fps drops, any ideas anyone? =(
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Skyrim is generally CPU limited. Try reducing the shadow quality since that is only run on one thread iirc.
post #19 of 26
Try either overclocking your CPU farther or turning shadows/ view-distance quality down. If overclocking the CPU increases performance, then you had a CPU bottleneck.
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As mentioned, Skyrim can be very heavy on the CPU, esp. in the large towns, and it really only uses two of your CPU cores, so ... that is the problem in your case.

There's a number of us trying to reckon why the CPU load is so extreme in certain areas, and looking to see if there's a setting that can be dropped somewhere that doesn't affect IQ too much, but will remove a significant load from the CPU to give us higher FPS and GPU usage.

As it stands now, about all we've reckoned is that dropping shadow quality will result in a bit lower CPU load and should hence increase FPS in the troublesome areas ... but it's not the optimal solution and certainly (to me at least) doesn't appear to be the actual 'underlying problem' ... rather, it's just a band-aid wanna-be solution.

If it makes you feel any better, even people with Sandy's at 4.7GHz and GTX580's still see significant slowdowns in the large towns as well ... the places where you get 28-30, people with the highest-end stuff are only getting around 38-45fps, which is still a very noticeable slowdown in this game.

Dunno about BF3 specifically, but keep in mind that some gfx settings you can adjust can impact both CPU and GPU load (like Shadows do in Skyrim), so just because increasing 'graphics settings' in general lowers the FPS, that doesn't necessarily mean that you can rule out the possibility that your CPU is struggling. Remember that every single frame ever rendered on your machine is a new opportunity for either the CPU or the GPU to act as a limiting factor ... and which one *is* doing so can switch back and forth all the time while you play, depending on the game, settings, etc.

Lastly, from what I understand, BF3 can be a bit of a video memory hog, and the 295 has only 896MB effective vram capacity, so it's possible that you have two different issues between the two games in question, they just happen to be two problems that manifest themselves in a very similar way wink.gif
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