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Hi everyone,

I'm trying to find a reliable UPS for my rig. I dont need to use it during a blackout i just want to prevent damage. So a minute or two to shut down is really all I need. My specs are in my sig. I was considering this one - APC BE550G Back-UPS ES 8 Outlet 550VA 120V

I would prefer to spend in the 100-125 dollar range. Thanks.
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post #2 of 12
I'm not sure how much a 550VA UPS will do for you with that setup. You're on the right track with APC though, any UPS of theirs that I have used has been stellar.

I personally use this line on my home PCs: http://www.apc.com/products/family/index.cfm?id=27

Something like a 1000VA should be sufficient for your PC to safely power down in the event of an outage, and should also keep your monitor(s) running as well so you can see what is happening.
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Originally Posted by mlb426 View Post

Hi everyone,
I'm trying to find a reliable UPS for my rig. I dont need to use it during a blackout i just want to prevent damage. So a minute or two to shut down is really all I need. My specs are in my sig. I was considering this one - APC BE550G Back-UPS ES 8 Outlet 550VA 120V
I would prefer to spend in the 100-125 dollar range. Thanks.

Your rig would need more than 550VA. You are looking at 1200VA and above. Actually VA rating is not that important as long as your PSU is modern and supports Active Power Factor Correction (Active PFC). 1200VA and above is usually rated at 700+ Watts.

Let's see, 2600K and 2 x GTX 580, and a 550VA UPS usually only provides ~300 Watts of output. Clearly not enough to power to your rig. Don't forget you need to also factor in some extra wattage for the monitor and for the wattage PSU wasted due to efficiency lost (some extra 40W to 50W).

The UPS you picked won't even last a minute during blackout. You really missed your chance. Back then Newegg did a Black Friday deal with Cyberpower 1350VA 810W for $119.

Furthermore I typically recommend people to get an UPS with pure sinewave output. Some PSUs are very picky and regular UPS won't work with them.

Regular
http://www.amazon.com/CyberPower-CP1350AVRLCD-Intelligent-LCD-Green/dp/B000OFXKFI/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1323202046&sr=1-1

Pure Sinewave
http://www.amazon.com/CyberPower-CP1350PFCLCD-1350VA-810W-Compatible/dp/B00429N19M/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1323202046&sr=1-2

Although I recommend go even higher and get 1500VA 900W version.

So borrow some money.
Edited by trumpet-205 - 12/6/11 at 12:18pm
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post #4 of 12
Agreed on the pure sine wave UPS. I've seen several servers lose power as soon as a battery kicks on due to not having a pure sine, and it can be rather annoying.
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Originally Posted by mlb426 View Post

Hi everyone,
I'm trying to find a reliable UPS for my rig. I dont need to use it during a blackout i just want to prevent damage. So a minute or two to shut down is really all I need. My specs are in my sig. I was considering this one - APC BE550G Back-UPS ES 8 Outlet 550VA 120V
I would prefer to spend in the 100-125 dollar range. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by trumpet-205 View Post

Your rig would need more than 550VA. You are looking at 1200VA and above. Actually VA rating is not that important as long as your PSU is modern and supports Active Power Factor Correction (Active PFC). 1200VA and above is usually rated at 700+ Watts.
Let's see, 2600K and 2 x GTX 580, and a 550VA UPS usually only provides ~300 Watts output. Clearly not enough to power to support your rig. Don't forget you need to also factor in some extra wattage for the monitor and for the wattage PSU wasted due efficiency lost (some extra 40W to 50W).
The UPS you picked won't even last a minute during blackout. You really missed your chance. Back then Newegg did a Black Friday deal with Cyberpower 1350VA 810W for $119.
Furthermore I typically recommend people to get an UPS with pure sinewave output. Some PSU is very picky and regular UPS won't work with them.
Regular
http://www.amazon.com/CyberPower-CP1350AVRLCD-Intelligent-LCD-Green/dp/B000OFXKFI/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1323202046&sr=1-1
Pure Sinewave
http://www.amazon.com/CyberPower-CP1350PFCLCD-1350VA-810W-Compatible/dp/B00429N19M/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1323202046&sr=1-2
Although I recommend go even higher and get 1500VA 900W version.
So borrow some money.

LOL.. I think i can swing the difference. Thanks for the detailed posts.. I was hesitant on the bigger ones because of the large size but will manage. Also, I suggested APC as opposed to cyberpower based on a couple of reviews I had read on several cyberpower units emitting gas and having a bad smell. Any experience with this?
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post #6 of 12
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LOL.. I think i can swing the difference. Thanks for the detailed posts.. I was hesitant on the bigger ones because of the large size but will manage. Also, I suggested APC as opposed to cyberpower based on a couple of reviews I had read on several cyberpower units emitting gas and having a bad smell. Any experience with this?

That I don't know. I got my first Cyberpower UPS (the one I mentioned for pure sine wave). It hasn't been that long so I can't comment on this gas and smell problem. Although so far it has work out great. If you can find APC with similar ratings around similar price point, go for it.
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post #7 of 12
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used a mix of both of your suggestions. i went with a 1500 apc unit for 200 bucks. Was an easy hookup, we'll see how it performs when the power goes out. Thanks again guys
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post #8 of 12
Why wait? Unplug the UPS from the wall. If it's working, all your gear should stay on!
post #9 of 12
Or perform a self-test. UPS is there for you to shut down your PC properly or to start backup generator in time.
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post #10 of 12
http://www.frys.com/product/5955014?site=sa:adpages page:p6

this unit should suit you just fine. My power is awful (and i mean awful) here and it takes hits regularly. They make a great product
good luck

EDIT: oops sorry i didn't see you got one (another good choice though). i second the unplug it from the wall test and see how it goes.
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