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Man those MSI cards have some secret sauce or something.
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I'm going to buy a GTX 560 Ti 448 next week, and am torn between these models:

Gainward GTX 560 Ti 448 cores Limited Edition (209,90 €)
Zotac GTX 560 Ti 448 cores (213,90 €)
The Zotac is 4 € more expensive, so both of these are an option for me.

It's safe to say I don't have the cash to buy really expensive models with great stock coolers like the EVGA or MSI with Twin Frozr (roughly 50 € more expensive). If I wanted an MSI, then the option would be a normal MSI 560 Ti Twin Frozr II for 199,90 €, but I guess that's not really an option in the end (if you compare what you get for a 448 core version for only 10-15 € more).

The Zotac seems to have higher stock core clock (765MHz vs Gainward's 732MHz), will this make a massive difference since I'm coing to see how the one I buy overclocks anyway? On the other hand, the Gainward's cooler _atleast_ seems better with dual fans (maybe quieter, don't know).

Which one would you recommend?
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Originally Posted by solkku View Post

I'm going to buy a GTX 560 Ti 448 next week, and am torn between these models:
Gainward GTX 560 Ti 448 cores Limited Edition (209,90 €)
Zotac GTX 560 Ti 448 cores (213,90 €)
The Zotac is 4 € more expensive, so both of these are an option for me.
It's safe to say I don't have the cash to buy really expensive models with great stock coolers like the EVGA or MSI with Twin Frozr (roughly 50 € more expensive). If I wanted an MSI, then the option would be a normal MSI 560 Ti Twin Frozr II for 199,90 €, but I guess that's not really an option in the end (if you compare what you get for a 448 core version for only 10-15 € more).
The Zotac seems to have higher stock core clock (765MHz vs Gainward's 732MHz), will this make a massive difference since I'm coing to see how the one I buy overclocks anyway? On the other hand, the Gainward's cooler _atleast_ seems better with dual fans (maybe quieter, don't know).
Which one would you recommend?

It's certainly not in your benefit to get a standard 560Ti over a 448.
I'd google around and see which one has been getting better overclocks, then decide based on that.
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Originally Posted by solkku View Post

I'm going to buy a GTX 560 Ti 448 next week, and am torn between these models:
Gainward GTX 560 Ti 448 cores Limited Edition (209,90 €)
Zotac GTX 560 Ti 448 cores (213,90 €)
The Zotac is 4 € more expensive, so both of these are an option for me.
It's safe to say I don't have the cash to buy really expensive models with great stock coolers like the EVGA or MSI with Twin Frozr (roughly 50 € more expensive). If I wanted an MSI, then the option would be a normal MSI 560 Ti Twin Frozr II for 199,90 €, but I guess that's not really an option in the end (if you compare what you get for a 448 core version for only 10-15 € more).
The Zotac seems to have higher stock core clock (765MHz vs Gainward's 732MHz), will this make a massive difference since I'm coing to see how the one I buy overclocks anyway? On the other hand, the Gainward's cooler _atleast_ seems better with dual fans (maybe quieter, don't know).
Which one would you recommend?

The cooler on the gainward looks close to what was on my EVGA.
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It's certainly not in your benefit to get a standard 560Ti over a 448.
I'd google around and see which one has been getting better overclocks, then decide based on that.

Certainly not, it was just an example of what I'd have to do to get that quality cooler. biggrin.gif I'm not seriously even considering it.

That's the thing.. There's not any reviews of the Gainward anywhere, nor could I find any X-rated photos of a naked Gainward 560 Ti 448. redface.gif
There are plenty of Zotac reviews with mixed OC results, also plenty of people on the Zotac forums complaining about their 448 running too hot. While searching this thread I only found one dude with the Gainward:

Quoting Mikej87:
"i just got the Gainward 560 TI 448 my stock voltage is 0.988 stock core was 732 i haven't changed my voltage but my core clock is now 842 MHz i checked with evga oc scanner and it had no errors after 20 minutes and sat at 72.c with auto fan in my opinion great card"

So it's a shot in the dark I guess... I just like the Gainwards dual fan cooler better, usually indicates a little less noise. whistle.gif
Edited by solkku - 4/15/12 at 3:55pm
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The cooler on the gainward looks close to what was on my EVGA.

I just wish I'd find some photos of the Gainward's detached cooler & naked card. sozo.gif
Edited by solkku - 4/15/12 at 3:51pm
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I have found that if you simply open a gpu-z it will max the card and show the core and voltages at what they would be under load.

Sorry, pretty new to all of this. What's GPU-Z?

Also, can anyone tell me which of the values in Afterburner give most improvement, or what they do specifically?

Thanks guys biggrin.gif
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Sorry, pretty new to all of this. What's GPU-Z?
Also, can anyone tell me which of the values in Afterburner give most improvement, or what they do specifically?
Thanks guys biggrin.gif

Well, you are really shooting to raise the core/shader clock. That is what will improve your performance. Once you have that maxed, then you will mess with the memory frequency. That is not as important as the core. The other number, you will notice is always double what the core is at.
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Sorry, pretty new to all of this. What's GPU-Z?

Also, can anyone tell me which of the values in Afterburner give most improvement, or what they do specifically?

It's a program with which you can monitor your video card voltages, speed, temps etc. Much like the CPU-Z is for processors.
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/

In Afterburner: Core clock, shader clock and memory clock are the most used ones. Core clock is like the speed of the video card's "processor", memory clock is self explanatory (speed of memory). Not really sure what the shader clock does exactly, though. But my bet is that someone here does. biggrin.gif
Edited by solkku - 4/15/12 at 5:40pm
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Thanks for all the help guys smile.gif.

So core clock, and shader clock, thenmemory in priorities smile.gif.

I am contemplating on upping the voltage a little to see what I can squeeze out of this card. I was always reluctant to do so because I am using a 450 Bronze PSU that comes with my SG05BB-450 case. People are running more power intensive cards than mine, so I guess I can up voltage a little. In Afterburner voltage is set to 0 (.912 idle, .975 load), and I can + it all the way up to 150, I believe. What do you think is a safe amount? I am already on 950/1900/2100. Any guidance would be great!
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