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Isn't this the same as BD being hurt by an improper thread scheduler. Seems so to me. Using real cores first b4 HT cores seems the same as filling 1 core per module in BD before filling the 2nd core per module, which seems to make BD a little faster.
So if Intel can get decent performance boost, hopefully BD will get such a boost from the new scheduler, though I'm sure arch comes into play as well and BD has other problems.
Oh well, good to see optimizations like this, though its not like Intel needed another performance boost tongue.gif (makes me wonder if Apple would sell this as an "upgrade patch" for a Mac running an Intel CPU thats affected haha)

Nah, they tested BD and it doesn't get any improvements.

I think it's kind of funny though "Software patch can make AMD CPU faster!" And a lot of posters in this thread are calling crap, etc. Same thing happens with Intel CPUs using HT and they're all over it. wink.gif
    
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Nah, they tested BD and it doesn't get any improvements.
I think it's kind of funny though "Software patch can make AMD CPU faster!" And a lot of posters in this thread are calling crap, etc. Same thing happens with Intel CPUs using HT and they're all over it. wink.gif

True enough, though I doubt BD will get as much of a performance bump as this will give Intel. The reason being, I think AMD has more issues than simply not having optimized software. I think the automated design being roughly 20% larger while 20% slower (according to AMD engineer) and what seems to be a bad process in general from GloFo... But who knows, maybe it will be enough to make BD compete, we need it to.

Back OT. I think this is great, never really saw HT as being worth it for anything but niche things. I mean, how many people need threaded beasts? (well... this is OCN but you know what I mean heh) Surely not 95% or more of consumers... but Intel seems to be able to squeeze a little more than I figured they would out of it for some things, and with games getting more and more threaded, and software designers hopefully getting on the bandwagon finally... I think you'll see this generation of Intel CPU's from SB on having longer and longer life cycles, as I see them getting MORE powerful as software progresses and HT can be properly utilized for most common tasks. Seriously, when SB chips are "budget" chips the likes of Athlon 64's and Pent4's are now (super cheap systems used available all over places like kijiji) the average user will likely be a very happy user.

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Nah, they tested BD and it doesn't get any improvements.
I think it's kind of funny though "Software patch can make AMD CPU faster!" And a lot of posters in this thread are calling crap, etc. Same thing happens with Intel CPUs using HT and they're all over it. wink.gif

it's a known fact that HT is not perfect and sometimes hinder performance esp. in gaming.

a lot different than the magic patch that everone else is claiming with bulldozer that will increase performance significantly off the charts.. the only thing the windows 8 scheduler will do to bulldozer is increase IPC performance in less theaded applications. it will schedule the threads to different modules so they won't share resources. even with the windows 8 scheduler there will be no increase in performance when all cores are fully loaded. it's a fact
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Looks like most the guides on how to disable core parking are incorrect.

Proof:
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How to Disable Core Parking (the correct way)

1) Press the Windows + R keys > type regedit

2) Press CTRL + F keys > copy / paste / search " 0cc5b647-c1df-4637-891a-dec35c31858 " (no quotes). Look for data entries with Attribute, ValueMin, ValueMax, ValueIncrement.

(NOTE/REQUIRED) If you modified ValueMax to 0, change it back to 64 hex(100 decimal) for all the 0cc5b647-c1df-4637-891a-dec35c31858 search results. Otherwise, ignore this and continue with the rest of the guide.
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3) Right-click and modify all Attribute data entries found to 0. (I found two or three Attribute data entries searching for " 0cc5b647-c1df-4637-891a-dec35c31858 " (no quotes))

5) Press the Windows + R keys > type powercfg.cpl

7) Click "Change plan settings"

8) Click "Change advanced power settings"

9) Expand "Processor performance core parking min cores". Change value to 100%.

10) Restart

11) Press the Windows + R keys > type resmon.exe

12) Click the CPU tab and ensure your cores aren't parked.
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Enjoy. smile.gif

Edit: Clarity
Edited by Woundman - 12/7/11 at 9:03pm
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^

I wanted a confirmation If I had core parking off. ty for the resource monitor. +rep
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Nah, they tested BD and it doesn't get any improvements.
I think it's kind of funny though "Software patch can make AMD CPU faster!" And a lot of posters in this thread are calling crap, etc. Same thing happens with Intel CPUs using HT and they're all over it. wink.gif

True enough, though I doubt BD will get as much of a performance bump as this will give Intel. The reason being, I think AMD has more issues than simply not having optimized software. I think the automated design being roughly 20% larger while 20% slower (according to AMD engineer) and what seems to be a bad process in general from GloFo... But who knows, maybe it will be enough to make BD compete, we need it to.

There will be quite a decent sized performance bump for anything that uses 4 threads or under, but above that I doubt it. (For the 8 core)
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Nah, they tested BD and it doesn't get any improvements.
I think it's kind of funny though "Software patch can make AMD CPU faster!" And a lot of posters in this thread are calling crap, etc. Same thing happens with Intel CPUs using HT and they're all over it. wink.gif

it's a known fact that HT is not perfect and sometimes hinder performance esp. in gaming.

a lot different than the magic patch that everone else is claiming with bulldozer that will increase performance significantly off the charts.. the only thing the windows 8 scheduler will do to bulldozer is increase IPC performance in less theaded applications. it will schedule the threads to different modules so they won't share resources. even with the windows 8 scheduler there will be no increase in performance when all cores are fully loaded. it's a fact

I was referring to the people who denied it would even do that, actually. Some of the AMD people are just as bad the other way.
    
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post #67 of 85
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Looks like most the guides on how to disable core parking are incorrect.
Proof:
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How to Disable Core Parking (the correct way)
1) Press the Windows + R keys > type regedit
2) Search for " 0cc5b647-c1df-4637-891a-dec35c31858 " (no quotes). Look for entries with Attribute, ValueMin, ValueMax, ValueIncrement.
(NOTE/REQUIRED) If you modified ValueMax to 0, change it back to 64 hex(100 decimal) for all the 0cc5b647-c1df-4637-891a-dec35c31858 search results. Otherwise, ignore this and continue with the rest of the guide.
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3) Right-click and modify all Attribute entries found to 0. (I found two or three Attribute entries searching for " 0cc5b647-c1df-4637-891a-dec35c31858 " (no quotes))
5) Press the Windows + R keys > type powercfg.cpl
7) Click "Change plan settings"
8) Click "Change advanced power settings"
9) Expand "Processor performance core parking min cores". Change value to 100%.
10) Restart
11) Press the Windows + R keys > type resmon.exe
12) Click the CPU tab and ensure your cores aren't parked.
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Enjoy. smile.gif

could you be a little more specific except search for this...I mean what sub folder and what not.. What you showed is as vague as a fog.
post #68 of 85
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could you be a little more specific except search for this...I mean what sub folder and what not.. What you showed is as vague as a fog.

when you often regedit just hit ctrl+f to search for the registry
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could you be a little more specific except search for this...I mean what sub folder and what not.. What you showed is as vague as a fog.

I tried to make the instructions easier to understand. If you have anymore questions, please ask or send a PM. I'll be glad to assist you when I get a chance.
post #70 of 85
Coming to think of it and reading around , i dont even think my cores were ever parked ? weird i got a higher score in cinebench though it went from 6.7 to 7.2 and also a higher score on the cpu physics test in 3dm11 .. 2 fps increase at the same clock speed thumb.gif i have ran those benchmarks hundreds of times before i modified the registry setting and was never able to get those scores no matter how hard i tried , so it must be doing something ? what though .. if my cores were never parked ?

If you had gone into control panel and power plan set it to high performance , would it have the same effect and disable core parking ? because my plan was always on high performance before any of this come up and i honestly never checked resorce monitor to see any parked cores , never took notice .
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