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Originally Posted by Sir Beregond View Post

This site smells of BS to me.

No, the site is "totally legit". They even have a marketing slide from June 16 to corroborate their story. But they are missing the trollface.jpg...
 
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And yet it HAS happened several times already. Have you even spent more than 2 minutes looking at benchmarks over the past 5 years? 5870 = 4870x2, GTX480 = GTX295, 4870 = 3870x2, etc. It's not hard to believe the 7970 would = 6990 performance since the 6990 isn't equal to dual 6970s, it's more like dual 6950s. And guys, if you think AMD would release a die shrink high end GPU that barely beats a 580, you're wrong. Do you think they haven't caught wind of the fact that Nvidia is dropping the price of the 580 to $350 for christmas? Why would they release a new GPU for $499 that only gives you a ~15% performance gain for an extra $150? It's just not going to happen. You all see a few slides from 6 months ago and some opinionated article in another language and automatically assume that it's fact. This foreign blog site has no more information than any of us do. I expect the 7970 to manhandle the 580 with a 1ghz core clock, 28nm die shrink, and the extra ROPs and TMUs associated with a new architecture compared to the 6970. A 6970 is barely 15% behind a 580 in most benches. The 7870 is a die shrunk 6970. If anything I expect the 7870 to match 580 performance. The 7950 should be the one at around 15-20% higher performance than the 580, with the 7970 at around +50% over the 580. AMD will not release a new GPU at that pricepoint that doesn't significantly perform. It just won't happen. If there are any performance issues, the GPUs will be delayed, and we'll be stuck with the 7870/7850 for 4-6 months before the 7970/50 hits.
Well at least someone pays attention. thumb.gif
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Originally Posted by Polymerabbit View Post

Yet another site claiming higher than expected pricing and lower than expected performance just to enrage fanboys and draw more hits.
As other's have said, it's just speculation, take it with a LOT of salt. I mean we haven't even seen any hand picked benchmarks from AMD yet tongue.gif
You are correct sir. That site is just a tabloid. Look at how wrong they have been in the past.
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Troll site. I'd suggest ignoring this thread and wait patiently for actual benchmarks.
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That site have been spewing fairytales about a certain AMD cpu few months back.
They are just hunting for clicks and pushing themselves higher on google search.
Another perosn paying attention as well. smile.gif


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News posts, if you can even call them that, should not be allowed from this Site. Anything I have ever seen anyone post from them has been false. Also 570> 6970 =trollolol.
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570 faster than 6970 ? lol. 570 is limiting on vram.
Fyp....
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/292?vs=306
570>6970 or 570=6970 seems pretty fair to me.

Cysis 2 570>6970(All resolutions)
BF3 570>6970(4xMSAA all resolutions)
Batman 570>6970(Dx11 or DX9 All resolutions)
Rage 570>6970(All resolutions)
Skyrim 570=6970(All resolution)
The Witcher 2 570>6970(All resolutions)
Dirt 3 570=6970(All resolutions)
MW3 570=6970(All resolutions)
1920_Ultra.png
1920_HighUltra.png
1920_01.png

Why do you think they are in the same price bracket???



Delusional kids around this forum....
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:sadpanda: if the HD 7950 will not beat a GTX 580 :sadpanda:
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AMD guys have been sore at NVIDIA for having the most powerful single-gpu cards for a while now. I think it is perfectly reasonable to give the 570 a slight advantage over the 6970 but obviously all 6970 owners will scream " troll!"
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The fact of the matter is the (2GB) 6950 isn't too far off the 580 in games like Metro 2033 and Crysis: Warhead where it only holds a 10% or so lead and the 7850 being a die shrink of the 6950 will improve upon that. (It holds a more significant 50% or so lead in games like HawX and Civilization V but they run better on NVidia cards don't they?) It's quite likely the 7950 will perform better than the 580 considering its both a die shrink and a new architecture with more cores, more texture units, more ROPs, more shaders, and higher clock speeds.
6950 vs 580 link

I'm not saying a 7950 won't perform better than a 580 far from it actually.


I'm saying a 580 performs tangibly better than a 480.

He had no source to prove the 7950 would perform better #just saying
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AMD guys have been sore at NVIDIA for having the most powerful single-gpu cards for a while now. I think it is perfectly reasonable to give the 570 a slight advantage over the 6970 but obviously all 6970 owners will scream " troll!"

Maybe you're sore that you paid a 25% premium to have the "fastest" card while only getting 10-15% more performance!

J/K with ya, but all in all the 570 and 6970 are pretty much on equal footing, although I did hear those rumors that 570's OC'd like crap due to shoddy VRM's, but not sure how truthful that is.
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Maybe you're sore that you paid a 25% premium to have the "fastest" card while only getting 10-15% more performance!
J/K with ya, but all in all the 570 and 6970 are pretty much on equal footing, although I did hear those rumors that 570's OC'd like crap due to shoddy VRM's, but not sure how truthful that is.

There's a 570 in the FS section that overclocks to 1Ghz core
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Originally Posted by Not A Good Idea View Post

I remember about a year ago when i purchased the 6970s... they were suppose to topple Nvidias 580s blah blah blah... only to come up short. this feels like the same thing all over again. rumored specs vs what we actually get. just wait till they drop and then draw conclusions, not the other way around.

AMD's top of the line card is not a direct competitor for Nvidia's top of the line card. They haven't even tried to cook up a card that competes with the 280, 480 or 580.

Have you never heard of AMD's small die strategy? It's got nothing to do with them not being able to take the performance crown. Instead, they focus in the higher volume and thus more highly lucrative market segments.

You should never, ever believe that AMD is going to put out a card that will top whatever next gen card Nvidia is going to put out. It's just not going to happen. Not until either company changes their strategy.

There's a remote chance it could happen if Nvidia makes a gigantic flop with their flagship card, but it's highly unlikely. Nvidia wins by sheer die size. AMD however is profiting more per die than Nvidia is, even while undercutting Nvidia.

They have the more efficient architecture. Less heat (with equal cooling solutions. AMD's fans suck), less power, yet more performance per equal amount of die.

Proof of this is with the 6990 and 590. Nvidia lost because their card just drew too much power and ran way too hot. Even if you'd like to argue that they tied or lost to Nvidia, the fact that a card using far less powerful dies came so close to a card using monolithic dies of doom is embarrassing.

Nvidia will always offer the highest performing single gpu card, but AMD will always be leeching their sales in the rest of the market by offering more performance for the dollar. As more and more people lose their idiotic brand bias and figure out that AMD's drivers are pretty solid, AMD will only continue to do better.
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570 faster than 6970 ? lol. 570 is limiting on vram.
Fyp....
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/292?vs=306
570>6970 or 570=6970 seems pretty fair to me.
Cysis 2 570>6970(All resolutions)
BF3 570>6970(4xMSAA all resolutions)

Why do you think they are in the same price bracket???
Delusional kids around this forum....
Huh? Just look at the anandtech link you posted. The 6970 wins in all but the most notoriously nvidia favored games.

They're pretty on par, but the 6970 doesn't have a risk of exploding in your face while overclocking. I do believe it costs less as well, although I could be wrong on that.
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