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I am so glad I stuck to my guns and avoided BF3. Each EA news makes me even happier I am avoiding their crapware.
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post #82 of 146
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Originally Posted by IcedEarth View Post

We've known about this issue for a while, why doesn't everyone just ditch the EA forums? That's the simple answer.
Your forum account should not be linked to your games account, period. I find it ludicrous that a guy got banned simply because someone else swore at him, that's just pants on head retarded.

BAHAHAHAHAH....
pants on the head retarded....
I LOL'd
then pee'd
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post #83 of 146
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Originally Posted by MarvinDessica View Post

I don't understand why people would trust Valve either. They are both just as evil and have shown it many times over. I don't like having my copies of Deus EX, Shogun 2, Civ 5, Portal 2 and Fallout New Vegas hostage UNLESS I'm tied to their always-connected service? Because THAT is forcing you just as bad as EA with Battlefield 3 and Origin. I see so many people complain about how much they love Steam and think it's such a great platform, yet Origin, which does the EXACT same thing is bad because it's from a different company.
EA probably has some of the best support I've used. Their chat service has always helped me with any issues, they've reset my activation limits (which frankly, I don't understand why any of you wouldn't do the same), unlocked my DLC problems with Dragon Age Origins Ultimate Edition and even have given me a free game when my issue with Bulletstorms activation were horrid (Mostly having to do with GFWL related issues). When my account was hijacked trough steam it took them almost 3 days to respond, meanwhile I risked the possibility of my account being banned for ANY number of reasons they see justified and even if you had all the proof in the world the ability to reverse a VAC ban is apparently "out of their control" I mean really? Someones account gets hijacked, banned (And if you read their forums, it's happened many times before) and they lose access to hundreds spent on YOUR service? How does that many any sense?
Let's create a system that's supposedly "perfect" where someones account can still be hijacked but we can't reverse it at all! Brilliant!
I honestly wonder what Valve was thinking with the VAC system in place where the whole purpose of it's creation can still get your account banned.

Steam has my trust. What have they done that is anywhere near as bad as all the crap EA has pulled over the years?

I don't like the idea of having to be connected to the Internet all the time to play my games and I WILL NOT buy games that require that. Your assertion that Steam requires an always on Internet connection is completely false.

First of all lets say you have an unexpected Internet loss. You can still launch and play your games for 3 months, 90 days, before you have to reconnect. If you download your games and then put Steam into Offline mode you NEVER have to reconnect to play your games. You only have to reconnect if you want to buy new games or download games in your library that you don't have installed.

Steam is awesome, Valve is awesome, and this is coming from someone who will never use Origin, will never buy Diablo 3 because it requires an always on Internet connection, and haven't bought any games published by Ubisoft in two years, even games I've wanted, b/c they use the always on DRM.

I don't know where you guys come from who try and insist that Valve is just as "evil" as EA. They have demonstrated time and time again that they listen to the community and try to meet their needs. EA has shown time and time again they want to sell units and the community can go hang for all they care. They do horrible, quasi-legal things like denying customers access to games they paid for because of a criticism they posted on their forum. When they get caught they lie about it, resume the practice, and when they get called on it again the only thing they say is that they are "looking into it".

EA sucks and I have ZERO trust for them, same goes for Activision, same goes for Ubisoft. They have squandered any trust I had in their companies long ago with lies and broken promises and insults to top it off. Valve may have made a few mistakes here and there but they are upfront with the users, and try meet their needs.

EDIT: I see you say that EA chat support always resets your activations. See how far we have come? Instead of being mad that they even have activation limits you are happy that they have allowed you to reinstall a game you PAID for! That is hilarious. No Valve game EVER has had activation limits.
Edited by Mygaffer - 12/7/11 at 5:23pm
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post #84 of 146
this reminds me of playing mta: san andreas... some servers will ban for language, though san andreas is one of the raunchiest games ever made.
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Originally Posted by trees415 View Post

Look, EA has every right to retain complete control over the games you purchase, and just because you "buy" something doesn't mean you actually "own" it. Furthermore, by giving EA your money, they are entitled to examine your computer files for whatever they want. Welcome to dystopian capitalism, bro!
Seriously though, this is something I was extremely weary about when Origin hit the scene, and it seems as if these fears are materializing. Contrary to my above sarcasm, when you purchase a game, you become the owner of that game in itself. While multiplayer retains the form of a "service" whether it costs additional money or not, ownership of any offline content is supposed to be transferred upon purchase and final. Of course, with this new Origin system, EA believes they can take this content, and by having it be distributed exclusively through it's "Origin service," the content itself becomes a service. Unforunately, when I read through the EULA/TOU/TOS when I first installed BF3, there was enough there to grant EA the right to do stuff like this. Thus, the only way to really get these policies and pratices changed would be through legal channels in a court of law, or a popular boycott. However, for the time being what EA is doing is completely warranted behavior under its terms of use, with one exception being the issue of swearing (see below).

Yes, I agree but like the other person said the TOS here are explicitly clear about swearing. Battlelog/Origin on the other hand is not, and also there is pervasive cussing in the singleplayer, multiplayer and co-op parts of the game, so I'm pretty sure that EA is out of line on this one.

Just because it is in their TOS/TOU or EULA doesn't make it legal.

Also, when you pay for a game you DO NOT own it. In essence you're paying for the use of their product indefinitely, or as defined by a contract.
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I hate to jump on popular hate wagons, but EA seems to have written the book on how to treat your customers like crap. And "treating the customers like crap" doesn't even do it justice here. Taking back content the customer paid for because of a forum ban is theft in my book.

Did you know Valve has banned accounts with thousands of dollars of games with them JUST because a Valve employee *thought* that a user was "too good" at a certain game? No? Well, now you do.

lmao, there's absolutely no truth to this. Glad you took a rumor and make it sound like it was true.

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I hate both 'services' Steam and Origin but I do know someone who had about $300 worth of games on Steam... his account got hacked and he proved to their customer service that he was the rightful owner and they still, to this day, refuse to let him access his account. The service rep told him to buy the games again and suggested they had a sale going on. Lame.

So yeah, it's a lot like Steam. However, this is even more lame since it's just posts on a forum. It's got nothing to do with the game, they are not cheating. The games have swears in it constantly and rated for Mature audiences. I would sue. Make a class action lawsuit.

I honestly highly doubt that's the complete truth to his story. I've had my account hacked once in the past and had no issues getting it back, known a few close friends who also were hacked and again absolutely no issues getting it back.
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lmao, there's absolutely no truth to this. Glad you took a rumor and make it sound like it was true.

It's the bases of every rant/defense/arguement post he makes in EVERY anti-EA/Origin thread.

Fanbois will be fanbois...
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I also like the way you mention juvenile swear words. It's still profanity you know, and it's still against the ToS.

So your advice to me would be when I want to express my frustration or disdain in words I should use urban words like "dingleberry" and "bullocks"? Or is that too "profanity"?
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Last i checked, online interactions are not ESRB rated... BUT server admins have the right to run a server as they please...
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