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Originally Posted by intelfan View Post

The friend is futureproofing. But seriously, I would advice you to build it for him if you aren't too busy.

Games are just starting to make full use of 4 cores so "future proofing" is useless.
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The only game I can think of that uses hex core is FSX. Even then due to poor programming FSX will perform almost the same when comparing quad core vs hex core from the same family.
For those games a dual core like i3-2120 is more than enough. Your sister friend is taking advantage here. Probably will slap in a quad core CPU like i7-2600. The PC sees it as 8 CPU cores, and her friend makes profit from the gap. Even if this is future proofing this is overkill. By then its single thread performance will fall behind of future CPU.

This. BC2 and BF3 also can use hex core processor's but they don't even beat a second gen I3 let alone a I5. Unless the friend is talking about SB-E and even then that is entirely USELESS for gaming.
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post #12 of 29
Honestly, I don't see this as being so terrible unless you know for certain that the kid knows anything about actually maintaining and efficiently running his computer.

Sure, the games he plays would be fine with a dual core, and almost no games can use more than 4 cores at the moment, but who's to say that he knows how to upgrade or overclock his processor later down the line when software starts getting more demanding, or when he simply starts playing more demanding games?

Furthermore, if he's like a lot of gamer kid's I know, he'll say "I have an awesome new gaming computer. its the fastest thing in the world. I can run 3000 different apps in the background while playing a game. HEY WTH WHY IS MY GAME SLOW?!" *kicks computer*. Having a couple extra cores, and even some extra ram, helps idiot-proof a computer.

That said, I'd certainly explain all this to your sister. If she still wants to go with a 6 core for valid reasons, sure, but he certainly doesn't NEED it for THOSE games.
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post #13 of 29
I bet itll have a Radeon 6350.
post #14 of 29
Man i would find a couple of threads/links on the net about how much cores the games actually use and showed it to her just as HexATL said
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post #15 of 29
He was probably just saying a "6 core processor" because she is not computer savvy herself and just wanted to recommend a somewhat high end cpu. And in all honesty, a 1055t would be fine lol.

Of course the kid doesn't NEED a 6 core processor, but why not get one?

I would also like to echo the above posts, just offer to do it yourself. I don't see why she didn't ask you in the first place.
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post #16 of 29
I'd suggest getting a dual or quad, and spending the money on a better GPU..
post #17 of 29
Does her friend by chance work at Bestbuy? lachen.gif

Seriously though, Id find out exactly what her friend has planned and maybe try to help out with the build. Or even send them this way for some advice. thumb.gif
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post #18 of 29
I would ask for a whole spec list from your sister or friend before jumping to conclusions. maybe he has an old Phenom x6 lying around or something. But find out whats really going on. Make sure he isn't putting a bad GPU in as well. How old is her son? Like little and only wants to play games? Or big enough that he would enjoy the building process as well.

Maybe you should convince your sister to let you choose all the parts and give them to him in pieces, will be a lot of presents to un wrap. Then you can build it with him.

But either way I would find out the full list. Maybe the guy is clueless and just thinks. Minecraft, it can be played in a web browser, web browsers use cpu, NEEDS MOAR CORES!! Although Id recomend for best bang for buck and future proofing for a childs first gaming pc, new revision of the 560ti or a 6850/70 along with a core i3 or i5.
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If you build it, the relatives will come... LOL I made one PC for my aunt, 4 year's later I have built to many to count for friend's and family.
    
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post #20 of 29
He's taking advantage. You should see the units that so-called legitimate business PC installers sell businesses on. And don't start on servers.

I was at a dental office that spent $40K on computers, including 5K on their server. LMAO the sofware they run could be served by a P4. Then they're telling me that the server has to be reset at least once a day, sometimes more, and that the installer stopped supporting them in less than a year. What a scam.

Most people have absolutely no clue what hardware specs they really need, and unfortunately in all walks of life there are honest people and those who will oversell and take advantage if they see that someone is naive.

Offer to help her do it, and if she's defensive and refuses, then she gets what she deserves for not trusting the right person.
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