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post #11 of 23
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alright there we go ^_^ I guess Im down to the MSI TF 570 or the ASUS 570... grrr
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so why do i need a pci-e wireless card vs the PCI card i picked out? Im still confused with that... will the PCI card not fit into my MOBO? will the antennas be getting in the way of my outputs? O.o
and I intend to just buy the one card for right now and sli perhaps in a couple years when I will actually need an upgrade for newer games...

If you sli the Asus cards you will lose the regular pci slot, I'm on my phone now so can't look up the mobo pic but with msi it might still fit but I wouldn't want it in-between the two cards restricting air.
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I'm pretty sure the TF3's are binned, I have yet to see one that doesn't clock well. Mine for example does 900 core at 1.075v and I know at least 950 at 1.15v (haven't tried higher yet). I was never too keen on msi stuff but I can say with confidence their gpus (tf3 series at least) are awesome.
 
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I would go for the MSI Twin FrozR III ones without another thought. Don't take me wrong, the Asus DirectCU II card is brilliant (I had one), but it's far too big. When you want to SLI, the MSI Twin FrozR III cards are the best to have. I now have two of these and I'm very happy I made the change. SLI of Asus DirectCU II cards would have resulted in the top card suffocating (literally) and me having to also replace my sound card for a PCI-Express one.

Also, my Asus DirectCU II card got up to 900 MHz GPU and 2000 MHz memory. Both my MSI Twin FrozR III cards get to 950 MHz GPU and 2250 MHz memory. Maximum temperatures I reach are 66°C and 57°C for top and bottom card, respectively. That's with my sound card directly in-between both cards on the PCI slot.

Seriously, MSI Twin FrozR III and you won't regret a thing.
    
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post #15 of 23
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thanks guys ^_^ I think I will get the MSI... one last question, how much load can the MSI take until the sound starts to get annoying? (fan speed maybe around 50%)
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post #16 of 23
If you want to stay with air cooling and you don't mind the size, go for the DC II.

Both the TF III and DC II coolers are great, but the DC II triple slot definitely outperforms the MSI TF III. I've had cards with both coolers and the Asus is, without question, quieter and cooler.
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post #17 of 23
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alright how about this...

say in a few years I need to upgrade my GPU... would it make more sense to get the MSI now so I can easily sli down the road? OR, should I get the ASUS now and when I need an upgrade I simply buy a completely different, more powerful card (higher than a 590 or whatever in a few years)?... Or hell, if I get the ASUS now, do you think I would be able to sli it with a different card in a few years like an MSI card that is smaller and might fit along side the ASUS? I don't really know my options here :/
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either would be nice, i have evga vanillas and they rock so...
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Looks like a good setup overall IMO. I have the previous version of that board and love it. It's nice to have that 1 slot air gap for SLI.

I also have a TFIII 570 at home that I just popped in to run some benches with. It runs very cool and very quiet, I have to say. My 560 Ti Hawk (which is also a TFIII card) seems much louder than the 570. But, it only gets "loud" when the fan is above I'd say about 75%. I've had to RMA my TFII 560 Ti 3 times so far; the third time they are paying freight back to them though. So far I have had a very good experience with their customer service as well as turn around times for RMA. Great cards IMO.
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I just don't see the point in this "outperforms" in terms of cooling. As long as you don't reach anywhere near the danger zone of temperature and can freely overclock, who cares?
My top MSI card reaches 66°C. My bottom reaches 57°C. Both are very highly overclocked (950 MHz on GPUs, 1900 MHz on Shaders and 2250 MHz on Memory). If I had the Asus card, I wouldn't reach this high an overclock (mine didn't go beyond 900 MHz GPU). Yes, it ran 6°C cooler. What's that to me, though?
Nothing at all - because 60°C or 66°C is still WELL, WELL below temperature limits. The Asus card simply won't allow you to SLI it with an identical card. The MSI one will. Obvious choice is obvious (if you ever want to consider SLI). You can of course have an Asus card and pair it with an MSI card in the future but then it sort of defeats the purpose in ever getting the Asus card, no?

In my opinion, as long as you've reached an overclock wall due to voltage allowed or maximum stability that can be obtained, you can never "outperform" in terms of temperature because it's meaningless if still well within safe ranges.

As for noise, my 570s start making a bit of noise when at around 60% fan RPM. I probably don't need that high RPM but hey, I don't care - MSI Afterburner does a good job at throttling fan RPM with temperature, even if it could afford to do it at lower RPMs for less noise.

EDIT: My conclusive opinion is this: Get the MSI card. Maybe get two, or one now and another later. No point in getting an Asus card. What's the benefit? Temperature? It would be by like 6°C and it changes nothing at all. Worse, it hinders you from SLI with another Asus card. You can SLI the Asus card and MSI card, but why bother? Get two MSI cards. They even overclock higher...
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