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Nuff said.
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Should try this one out. All the phones I've had have been Nokia (naturally by the country I guess rolleyes.gif) except one crappy SE at one point and the current HTC Incredible S, they were good basic phones but then I bought the 5230. I learned to hate it so much that I decided that I will not buy a Nokia phone again until they completely ditch Symbian. I have never really experienced the WP7 but after the Lumia will be available here I'll sure give it a try. Why the last country it comes to has be Finland ffs frown.gif
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Oh yeah, I knew that. Its been availble on expansys for awhile too and newegg, but again not with subsidization. Thats what I mean. I think I'll wait till next year when they'll be 400 on ebay. Having the only meego device seems cool, mainly because that phone looks soo good and that meego also looks really interesting. :/

Esp with phones that retails for 600 going for 270 now in short months, I think lumina and n9 will drop by a lot. I couldn't wait though. I couldn't resist the meego.
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Really considering this for my next phone, dependant on battery life and reviews regarding reliability. And as for the symbian hate, it was a really great OS in it's day, the E71, N95 and N97 were fantastic symbian phones at the time. Where it all went wrong was when touchscreen integration was botched onto Symbian with s60v5, from then until now Nokia haven't really released a great phone, and honestly anyone buying a Symbian phone now is making a really bad choice. I've used Android pretty extensively but as far as ease of use goes for its main function (being a phone) I far prefer my 4 year old Nokia E51, iOS is nice, but man do you pay for it. I do believe the Lumia is too costly at the moment, though if the data in the article is correct, I can't see it getting cheaper any time soon.
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If you bought your phone on a 2-year agreement, then you don't own the phone, period.

Not true, you own the phone, but that contract was a 200-400 dollar coupon. Thats why your forced into data in most cases. Also why the buyout is 200+. They make it back, don't worry. Also why 2c texts cost us 25c a pop.
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Should try this one out. All the phones I've had have been Nokia (naturally by the country I guess rolleyes.gif) except one crappy SE at one point and the current HTC Incredible S, they were good basic phones but then I bought the 5230. I learned to hate it so much that I decided that I will not buy a Nokia phone again until they completely ditch Symbian. I have never really experienced the WP7 but after the Lumia will be available here I'll sure give it a try. Why the last country it comes to has be Finland ffs frown.gif

Finland will have very interesting phones for 2012, i am sure of that.Lumia 800 is just the beginning of a wave.

Nokia is preparing a dozen of WP7 for the next year not to mention HTC and Samsung,if you want the lumia 800 ,you should grab it from amazon and activate it through an operator there thumb.gif
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i doubt that.

Elop killed Symbian and Meego. He singed a deal (supposedly 8 yr contract) to pay $15 per phone to MS. He gave MS rights to most of Nokia's IP. He bought an unproven platform that had no ecosystem and that hadn't sold well. He did this all within a couple of months of becoming CEO.

How is this not wanting to kill Meego?

The N9 is not offered in US, UK, Germany, Netherlands, France, Spain, Italy, Canada, Norway, Belgium, etc. These are most of the large smartphone markets.

When I look for N9 ads on youtube, the newest I can find is 2 months old. Even great products won't sell as well without advertising (despite a lack of ad presence, the N9 broke sales records in Russia according to Nokia).

In addition to all of this, the specs of the N9 are better and the UI superior as well (the WP7 UI is flawed in many ways). There is little reason to buy a WP7 phone except that you know it exists (via ads) and it is available without specially importing it from another country.

Elop has both hands around Nokia's golden-egg laying goose and is slowly asphyxiating it to the detriment of both the company and the consumer.
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Elop killed Symbian and Meego. He singed a deal (supposedly 8 yr contract) to pay $15 per phone to MS. He gave MS rights to most of Nokia's IP. He bought an unproven platform that had no ecosystem and that hadn't sold well. He did this all within a couple of months of becoming CEO.
How is this not wanting to kill Meego?
The N9 is not offered in US, UK, Germany, Netherlands, France, Spain, Italy, Canada, Norway, Belgium, etc. These are most of the large smartphone markets.
When I look for N9 ads on youtube, the newest I can find is 2 months old. Even great products won't sell as well without advertising (despite a lack of ad presence, the N9 broke sales records in Russia according to Nokia).
In addition to all of this, the specs of the N9 are better and the UI superior as well (the WP7 UI is flawed in many ways). There is little reason to buy a WP7 phone except that you know it exists (via ads) and it is available without specially importing it from another country.
Elop has both hands around Nokia's golden-egg laying goose and is slowly asphyxiating it to the detriment of both the company and the consumer.


Have u ever used a Mango phone..?

U speak as if u have no idea.
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Elop killed Symbian and Meego. He singed a deal (supposedly 8 yr contract) to pay $15 per phone to MS. He gave MS rights to most of Nokia's IP. He bought an unproven platform that had no ecosystem and that hadn't sold well. He did this all within a couple of months of becoming CEO.
How is this not wanting to kill Meego?
The N9 is not offered in US, UK, Germany, Netherlands, France, Spain, Italy, Canada, Norway, Belgium, etc. These are most of the large smartphone markets.
When I look for N9 ads on youtube, the newest I can find is 2 months old. Even great products won't sell as well without advertising (despite a lack of ad presence, the N9 broke sales records in Russia according to Nokia).
In addition to all of this, the specs of the N9 are better and the UI superior as well (the WP7 UI is flawed in many ways). There is little reason to buy a WP7 phone except that you know it exists (via ads) and it is available without specially importing it from another country.
Elop has both hands around Nokia's golden-egg laying goose and is slowly asphyxiating it to the detriment of both the company and the consumer.

The N9 is not sold in those countries becasue the OS is not that great,in fact i percieve the N9 OS layout as cluttered,i simply hate it. Besides that you haven't used a WP7,the OS is simply superb,very well polished and works fast and flawlessly.
Edited by Eduardv - 12/9/11 at 11:46am
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The N9 is not sold in those countries becasue the OS is not that great,in fact i percieve the N9 OS layout as cluttered,i simply hate it. Besides that you haven't used a WP7,the OS is simply superb,very well polished and works fast and flawlessly.

Let's talk about the fundamental UI (individual applications can change, but the fundamental UI paradigm is mostly unchangeable).

I have used a WP7 device. The WP7 UI is the busiest design of all major UIs available (only a person misusing Android widgets can come close). Animations are also busy and take up time better spent actually doing things (look at how quick animations are on iOS and SwipeUI, they don't take much more time than the gesture causing them and they aren't distracting).

The panorama design is flawed (there's a reason why most other UIs use tab instead of multiple scrolls and the reason is related to efficiency).

App lists are linear and alphabetical without categories or folders.

Widgets are limited in ability due to size constraints and orientation on the home screen becomes difficult as the amount of tiles increases.

Multi-tasking is a second-class feature. Further, multi-tasking is tacked on via a flawed card view (The flaw is mostly fixed by WebOS with app tabs called "card stacks").

Besides all the fundamental problems with UI (and behind the scenes problems such as using a VM like android does) I think the OS isn't that bad. The problem is that Mango still hasn't caught up with the four-year old WM6.5 in capabilities.

All of this said, what about SwipeUI is cluttered? It is possible to use the device by using the multi-tasking screen and app drawer and almost completely ignoring the notifications. This dual screen approach is somewhat similar to WP7 (thus the question about clutter), but the app drawer is better and live programs is superior to live tiles AND a tacked-on task manager. The only thing I can think of is the app drawer, but PR1.2 adds a few features and one of them is folders in the app drawer to clean things up. Swipe UI was designed to cut down the time spent doing the things you do a hundred times a day with your phone and I believe that it succeeds at this.

Further, the blockbuster sales of the phone in the markets where it HAS been released show that the people do like the UI (enough to buy a N9 instead of WP7, Android, iOS, etc)
Edited by hajile - 12/9/11 at 12:32pm
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