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My new rig will have an i7 3960x CPU and two GTX590's for QUAD SLI.

So far, the watercooling components I'm getting are:

1 x XSPC Raystorm CPU WaterBlock
2 x XSPC Razor GTX590 GPU WaterBlocks
2 x XSPC RX360 Triple Fan Radiators
2 x XSPC X20 750 Dual Bay Reservoir Pumps

I'm going to have two separate loops. One catering solely to my CPU and the other to my GPU's.

Since I'm buying online, I don't know what to do with all the miscellaneous pieces.
How many fittings will I need? What sort of fittings do I need? What are barbs? Do I need them? How many, and what sizes?
These are all the questions bugging me.

Is there anyone more experienced that might be able to assist me? I would be so grateful. redface.gif
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That's the fun part choosing parts to set up water cooling for the first time thumb.gif

 

Post the parts you pick, we will make suggestions/corrections.

 

Need to do some reading though http://www.overclock.net/t/226970/updated-water-cooling-essential-threads

 

 

 

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post #3 of 31
With specific attention to fittings, and my invaluable expertise gained through my 1(one) watercooled pc built, whether or not you use compression fittings or barbs comes down to taste.

Compression fittings usually look much better than barbs, they're shiny, round, all round cleaner looking, but they are more expensive than a barb. Reliability seems to be par whichever you use, from what I've read, and my system never leaked anywhere, still hasn't after two weeks of use.

Personally it seems like the mating surface between a compression fitting and the hose is greater than on a barb, which would suggest comp.'s seal better, but you'd need to cite somewhere else to know for sure, just my opinion smile.gif
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Originally Posted by Ken1649 View Post

Need to do some reading though http://www.overclock.net/t/226970/updated-water-cooling-essential-threads


^this

also if your using 2 rx360 rads you would be better with 1 loop as the cpu 360 will be wasted and a single 360 for 4 gpu's is not enough, the rule of thumb is 1x120 per block + 1x120 for headroom
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^this
also if your using 2 rx360 rads you would be better with 1 loop as the cpu 360 will be wasted and a single 360 for 4 gpu's is not enough, the rule of thumb is 1x120 per block + 1x120 for headroom

This. I would also recommend one loop. A 360 rad for your CPU is overkill, and a 360 for 4 GPUs is not enough. The general rule of thumb is 120MM rad per GPU.

As for fittings, barbs are cheap, not as flashy, but do the job, where compressions are more expensive, and have more bling. They both do the job if installed correctly. For each device in your loop, you will need 2 fittings. The only exception to this is your GPUs. You will need at least 2, but there is likely a SLI fitting you will be using to connect the 2 cards rather than 2 more fittings.

For barbs, you'd likely get 1/2" barbs, so make sure to get 1/2" or 7/16" OD tubing to fit over top of them. With 7/16", it is slightly smaller than the barb, so its a pain in the butt to get on, but its snug and wont come off. You will likely have to cut it to remove it when you need to take your loop apart.

For compression fittings, multiple sizes are available, but I believe 1/2" ID 3/4" OD is the most popular. If you go that route, make sure to get tube that is exactly 1/2" ID 3/4" OD. Barbs don't care about OD, where compression fittings due.

Clear as mud?
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so make sure to get 1/2" or 7/16" ID smile.gif
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post #7 of 31
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Thanks everyone for such quick replies! smile.gif

So my plans have changed, you all think I should only have one loop? And I should use two separate 120mm radiators for each of my GPU's.

I'm starting to get intimidated by the order of my loop.

I was hoping to use 3/8 ID tubing, is this not a good decision? Would 1/2 ID suffice?

And are you saying I have a choice of whether to use Compression fittings or barbs?

Thank you everyone, and sorry for the silly questions rolleyes.gif

And I'm getting on to reading those faqs you sent tongue.gif

Oh and also, I'm not sure if this was clear: I have 2 Graphics cards, not 4.
Edited by SundrKyn - 12/8/11 at 5:44am
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Originally Posted by SundrKyn View Post

Thanks everyone for such quick replies! smile.gif
So my plans have changed, you all think I should only have one loop? And I should use two separate 120mm radiators for each of my GPU's.
I'm starting to get intimidated by the order of my loop.
I was hoping to use 3/8 ID tubing, is this not a good decision? Would 1/2 ID suffice?
And are you saying I have a choice of whether to use Compression fittings or barbs?
Thank you everyone, and sorry for the silly questions rolleyes.gif
And I'm getting on to reading those faqs you sent tongue.gif
Oh and also, I'm not sure if this was clear: I have 2 Graphics cards, not 4.

2x 360's are fine, just do one loop with them

I use 1/2" ID myself but i know a lot of people use 3/8"

You can use either barbs or compression fittings, imo compression fittings look better and i find them easier to use but its your choice, compression fittings are a lot more money though.

and yes you have 2 graphics cards but its technically 4 gpus since each 590 has 2
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Not separate radiators, rather the rule of thumb is to allocate 120mm of radiator capacity in the loop per processor, with a little bit extra if you plan to upgrade/overclock later. So in your case, 1 CPU + 2 GPU = a 3x120mm radiator capacity, plus a bit if you overclock. Your planned dual 360mm system would be plenty, if not overkill, but hey, we like overkill smile.gif

If you'd like to save a bit of cash, you could likely go down to a single 480mm radiator, again with everything in the same loop.

EDIT: Missed that they're dual GPU cards, in that case your dual 360mm will be a perfect choice for the setup smile.gif 1 CPU + 4 GPU + 1 120mm = 6x120mm
Edited by Goof245 - 12/8/11 at 5:58am
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Each GTX590 has two gpus per card so two cards = four gpus smile.gif 3/8 tubing is fine

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